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Akamai to Acquire Linode
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Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#242I had a sour taste from what I remember being misleading communication around very serious control plane hacks of linode. A lot of bitcoin theft in 2012 (maybe by their own staff?) 2013 some kind of cold fusion / HTP hack Another CF / HTP hack here. 2014 brought the MySQL server no password stuff. 2015 ish some kind of total root compromise? You can get a feel for all this here including the denials / lack of notific…
Look, we are random internet people, and it's a "me vs. you" scenario, but as someone who worked at Linode in 2012, we were a small company, that all worked out of one office, with like 3 admins at the time. Yes, there were various hacks. Yes, there were silly vulns, but positing that one of the employees at that time stole bitcoin is something that I won't stand for. Could it have happened, sure. Do I think that it…
I've been on Linode for quite a few years and the support was always top notch. Never got compromised to my knowledge.
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think in 2012 the tech community's sentiment was actually that Bitcoin was really cool and definitely useful, since it was new and did things in a practical application that we hadn't seen before. It's interesting that hindsight clouds that, it has been viewed negatively for years now but it's not that old yet. (Either way, your main point stands of course.)
nope, I remember starting my first tech job in 2013, and the only people in tech who cared about it were libertarians, which was a very small subgroup of tech
It's still heavily dominated by Libertarians. They want an anarchist revolution, without the effort of actually organizing and sustaining it.
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#244My Linode account has been active since 2010-02-15, so more than a decade now. They've been a very solid option to use all this time. Part of the reason I love them, beyond their great service and competitive pricing... is the fact that I've never had to think about it. Sometimes I may not log into my Linode account for 6 months or more.
Do they do a TON more stuff these days? Yes. But my standard bumpkin Linode instance keeps chugging along. Upgrade/replacement to new hardware? They handle it, I get alerts but otherwise I don't need to take action.
I'm happy for them that they got bought, because it brings (hopefully) a lot of value to all those people who worked so hard to get to this point in time. However as a customer I worry, of course I worry. Clearly Akamai wants to be the next big cloud, not just a CDN. Linode wants to be that next big cloud too. So it's a great fit. But will that push to The Next Big Thing kill off what made them great for the little guys? Maybe.
It'll still be good for their business, just bad for me.
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#245I think this is Akamai figuring out they need to address the self-serve market. Akamai has 6x the edge network footprint of Cloudflare and has all the cool trendy stuff like edge workers, they just suck at selling to the developer.
Insane! I wasn't aware Akamai was so huge in scale as compared to Cloudflare.
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#246Really happy for Linode. I cannot say enough good things about the quality of their products and support. As a customer who's built significant value on their infrastructure, I'm a little bit worried about the impact this acquisition will have on their operations. I really hope it gives them the resources to improve on the same mission, and not the beginning of significant change!
I think you're probably safe assuming Akamai will ruin Linode. I went through this once before with Slicehost, and had to move to Linode once Rackspace made Slicehost unusable.
This is exactly my current concern after hearing this news. Purely anecdotal, but I've had nothing but good experiences with both Linode and Digital Ocean over the years. I genuinely hope that Akamai does not destroy everything good about Linode, but at least if they do, thankfully there's more'n a few other excellent options to switch to.
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#247I was really close to becoming a Linode customer last week for several large boxes, but ended up buying hardware and self-hosting. The cost to cut in an enterprise fiber link (1000/400) to our office was surprisingly low. My experience trialling linode as a paying customer was really positive (VERY competitive price, great performance), only complaint being their NodeBalancer can’t automatically handle certificates l…
Try vultr, they've worked well for me for small->medium projects.
I've heard really good things about Vultr. I'll have to keep their bookmark handy in case Akamai brutally screws Linode up.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find this exceedingly hard to believe. Around 2009-2010, btc was definitely not an "asset" (like the bafoons try to treat it now). It * was a currency* . Many still believe in the idea that (certain, less well know) crypto can be used as a real currency, but unfortunately the public severely tainted it with ideas of 'being an asset'. This comment reads as someone who is more aligned with the public's (HN) perceptio…
I understand what you're trying to say, but I'm really curious about how you define "asset" to not include currency.
I think the idea of “hodl” bitcoin wasn’t there. One thing that changed in my perspective is that bitcoin transactions were always destined to be more expensive than I had dreamed. In my mind, I thought transactions would be fast and free of cost. In reality, there are reportedly fewer than ten thousand full nodes.
Everyone thinks of bitcoin in terms of “how many USD is it?” I don’t know what the solution is but as long as we think of bitcoin as a perverted asset like housing - apparently people once again believe we will not allow housing prices to fall to any significant degree - there is no reason to use bitcoin as a currency. With so much speculation, the price is too volatile.
I don’t know what the solution is but I believe transaction costs should be minimal if not zero. I don’t know how we will achieve this but apparently there are other projects that try to get much closer to zero transaction fees. I think that is the future
Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#249I had a sour taste from what I remember being misleading communication around very serious control plane hacks of linode. A lot of bitcoin theft in 2012 (maybe by their own staff?) 2013 some kind of cold fusion / HTP hack Another CF / HTP hack here. 2014 brought the MySQL server no password stuff. 2015 ish some kind of total root compromise? You can get a feel for all this here including the denials / lack of notific…
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Re: Akamai to Acquire Linode
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Look, we are random internet people, and it's a "me vs. you" scenario, but as someone who worked at Linode in 2012, we were a small company, that all worked out of one office, with like 3 admins at the time. Yes, there were various hacks. Yes, there were silly vulns, but positing that one of the employees at that time stole bitcoin is something that I won't stand for. Could it have happened, sure. Do I think that it…
As someone who commented on Linode hacks earlier, I can vouch for lbotos having worked there and feel the same way as they do. I don't believe any of the attacks were an inside job, because I don't believe anyone would have done that and if they did they knew how not to leave a trail behind. Also hey lbotos, hope you're doing well!
Backing up both Tim and Lee here as a former who overlapped with both of them. I had many issues with Linode as an employee. The idea that anybody I worked with at the time, many of whom I don’t get along with because I was even more of an asshole then than I am now, the idea that any of them would pinch Bitcoin off a Linode is so off-base it’s laughable. It simply didn’t happen. Period. If you believe it did, your logic in getting there is no different than that of political conspiracies that are common today.
I remember that rash of Bitcoin thefts and it was all careless behavior by the Linode owner becoming a secondary consequence of a primary employee compromise, I think. As in what happened to Twitter. Think “admin panel compromised, external actor searches for Linodes known to participate in Bitcoin, methodically compromises them one by one, finds poorly stored wallets and drains them”. That intruder very obviously knew what they were after, if memory serves, but this was almost ten years ago.
Seriously. Linode did one thing well and it was hire (mostly) good people. The comms around security incidents could always use improvement, and I think that led to the loss of trust you’re seeing here. I don’t think it’s just Linode, either, I think a lot of the industry is overly discreet when it comes to what to say publicly about events like this. We see the same with journalism: a lot of methods in reporting are trade skills and most people don’t understand the news gathering process, which leaves room to fill in the gaps with conspiracy. So it is with security, too.
I’d back your speculation, Tim: there were maybe two people, definitely one, maybe two, who could both perform the crime and hide it. One’s an unsavory person to interact with if he doesn’t like you but ultimately ethical and a force for good at his core. The other runs the company. Convince me that either of them did that and you may as well convince me the Earth is flat.