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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#92

For me the killer feature would be to entirely withhold incoming mail from specified email addresses or email domains until weekday working hours. No bolded 'pending' folder, no indication that you're being communicated with by business concerns in your leisure time...I'd pay an extra fee every year just for that one feature.

I use notmuch for my email workflow. It has Python APIs. This is trivial to do with it. The downside is that it's for PCs, not phones. I suppose one could hack a mail server around its tags so you could use it via the phone as well. Never thought about it...

https://notmuchmail.org/

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Why do we need/want inbox zero? Isn’t that a false promise of modern life? Inbox zero isn’t possible or even necessary

I've found it's both achievable and a worthwhile way to operate if and only if nearly all of your emails come from humans, and not very many of them. As soon as transactional emails and marketing mailer scripts start to take over, or long-running CC noise, it's hopeless and fighting it's not worth the time. Forget about it and rely on search. Maybe auto-categorize some senders you want to break through the noise, but…

> As soon as transactional emails and marketing mailer scripts start to take over, or long-running CC noise, it's hopeless and fighting it's not worth the time. Forget about it and rely on search.

The alternative, which works very well for me, is to have a whitelist and only allow that to hit your inbox. Then allow humans to get on to your whitelist:

http://blog.nawaz.org/posts/2018/Sep/solving-my-email-proble...

It's trivial to filter out the noise, because by default it filters everything out. You do a tiny amount of work to whitelist the humans.

Inbox Zero definitely works with that setup.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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I note the tagline says "Enjoy your inbox".

This is liable to create the impression the service is platform-neutral, but it is not. It relies solely on the Gmail API? I don't use Gmail, so your product doesn't work for me.

A simple way to fix this is to adjust the title to the more accurate, "Enjoy your Gmail inbox", thereby enabling us to determine whether it is usable or not.

In the long run, I hope you consider platform-neutral JMAP support once it has matured.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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post #96

I note the tagline says "Enjoy your inbox". This is liable to create the impression the service is platform-neutral, but it is not. It relies solely on the Gmail API? I don't use Gmail, so your product doesn't work for me. A simple way to fix this is to adjust the title to the more accurate, "Enjoy your Gmail inbox", thereby enabling us to determine whether it is usable or not. In the long run, I hope you consider pl…

To be fair that's literally the 2nd line on the landing page: "Email smarter & faster with a reinvented experience for your Gmail", with the first line having an underlined "Enjoy" - I believe to double convince the future users.

On the other hand it definitely looks like another snake oil email client in a long list of snake oil email clients. My another guess is (and I maybe wrong) - it is entirely electron or web based - the apps I mean.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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post #96

I note the tagline says "Enjoy your inbox". This is liable to create the impression the service is platform-neutral, but it is not. It relies solely on the Gmail API? I don't use Gmail, so your product doesn't work for me. A simple way to fix this is to adjust the title to the more accurate, "Enjoy your Gmail inbox", thereby enabling us to determine whether it is usable or not. In the long run, I hope you consider pl…

To be fair that's literally the 2nd line on the landing page: "Email smarter & faster with a reinvented experience for your Gmail" , with the first line having an underlined "Enjoy" - I believe to double convince the future users. On the other hand it definitely looks like another snake oil email client in a long list of snake oil email clients. My another guess is (and I maybe wrong) - it is entirely electron or web…

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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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post #96

I note the tagline says "Enjoy your inbox". This is liable to create the impression the service is platform-neutral, but it is not. It relies solely on the Gmail API? I don't use Gmail, so your product doesn't work for me. A simple way to fix this is to adjust the title to the more accurate, "Enjoy your Gmail inbox", thereby enabling us to determine whether it is usable or not. In the long run, I hope you consider pl…

To be fair that's literally the 2nd line on the landing page: "Email smarter & faster with a reinvented experience for your Gmail" , with the first line having an underlined "Enjoy" - I believe to double convince the future users. On the other hand it definitely looks like another snake oil email client in a long list of snake oil email clients. My another guess is (and I maybe wrong) - it is entirely electron or web…

The first paragraph is true, but I had to click on the link to discover that.

I guess I'm just a bit peeved at the implicit presumption everyone uses Gmail, and therefore, that Gmail APIs cover the field, and therefore that I can enjoy my inbox.

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