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Google Search Is Dying

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Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…

About the "dead internet conspiracy" - I've worked in writing how-to articles for a fairly large "help" website. They paid very little attention to the quality of the articles. I was paid for each piece and thus had about 30 minutes to write an article and later integrate feedback from internal review. Otherwise the payment became too low. The most important factor was cramming SEO terms and links to keep people on t…

Article agrees:

> Whether they’re a bot or human, they are decidedly fake.

Fake plastic trees.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#173
I'll re-post a comment I made about Google Search back in July 2020 because I believe it's still relevant:

"Call me crazy, but I've been using Yandex a lot more recently. Political FUD aside, the results are pretty good, and completely unfiltered.

It reminds me of how wild and unfiltered the internet was back in 2007. However, I wouldn't recommend it to "casual" users. Using Yandex requires a bit more common sense than Google, because malicious domains show up every now & then. For power users (99.99% of HN), this isn't a problem.

With all things considered, it's totally worth it. I never realized how censored Google Search was until I stepped away. As a grown ass man, I don't want anyone telling me what I "cant see" or attempting to define what's "acceptable" - The freedom to choose is intoxicating almost."

You can select a filter to hide any Russian results.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#174

Just a heads up if someone is searching reddit for product reviews. I believe most of them are inauthentic. I worked in marketing for several companies and we always had some budget for whisper marketing aka shilling. There are third party agency specialized in shilling on reddit and making it all look authentic.

I click on the profile of any reviewer I'm taking seriously. It's easy to spot the astroturf accounts vs the real degenerates

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#175

Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…

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This is nonsense. Google is not particularly woke as a whole, certainly not to the extent that concerns about "woke"ness drive massively important product strategy decisions. And certainly the government isn't forcing anyone to be more "woke" or, to my knowledge, really influencing search results at all. Unless you have evidence to the contrary?

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#176
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It's already dead. Google mined all the links that were curated by the initial internet communities for all it was worth and turned them into profits for Google's earliest employees and shareholders. Now that no one is curating useful links anymore their search quality, unsurprisingly, is deteriorating. Without human curation there is no signal for Google to use anymore and whatever signal is there is just SEO spam t…

Wonder how we could set up an alt-web without the incentives that cause this problem. Delist any for-profit site? How would the sites keep the lights on without ads?

To me it's more a sociological problem than technological. Also networks have changed.. somehow the decentralization idea is spreading fast. For ideological, technical, cost .. or other reasons. Some people start neighborhood wireless networks etc.

It also seems to me that internet has somehow became a middle man and is not providing human deep enough interactions, especially outside chat-like website (basically any exchange, business)..

I could envision a whatsapp like system with quality control for producers and transparent transaction/tracking/accounting management offered by the network so people spend less time on side-loads and just focus into helping each others and doing what they need to.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#177
Why oh why can’t the author make a point without resorting to a sweeping conclusion drawn from an anecdote?

Google search is simply an indexed representation of the indexable web. If you’re seeing SEO spam, that’s a reflection of how the web has evolved thanks to the most popular monetization mechanisms available today.

Reddit is simply a great site for user generated (mostly) textual content. It is not comparable to a search engine . . The popularity of “+Reddit” strings appended to the ends of search queries likely pales in comparison to the volume of overall search queries. One can investigate the differences through Google trends where one would see the string “tiktoks” beats Reddit this past year.

Articles like these full of self validating biases such as “My Opinion of Google search is everyone’s opinion and here are some selective quotes to show I’m right” are childish.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#179
I don't want to jump on a bandwagon but I've been somehow reluctant to use google more and more. It's just a tiny feeling but it's telling. ddg.. even bing.. something snapped.
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