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I was once a Facebook fool

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Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by dhimes »

thematt wrote: post #123
dhimes wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to say the same- I bet it would have been done long ago if, for example, MS thought they could get away with it. I'm curious as to how the law is going to interpret this in the future. The closed ecosystem of ios may be a bad (in my mind) precedent.

The time has come when Microsoft does think they can get away with it. All Metro apps on Windows 8 will have to go through their app store approval process.

I really hate this trend. That's one thing good that Java brought to the table. Everyone had Java installed, so getting my apps "installed" was just a matter of getting them downloaded.

If only this was the year of the Linux deskto... oh, nevermind.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by kragen »

res0nat0r wrote: post #92
numair wrote: post #88

Wow, well, this got way more attention than I wanted. First, to be clear -- I have nothing against the guy who took Dave Morin's job (who wasn't supposed to be named -- Amazon CloudFront didn't bother to invalidate its cache when I uploaded the final edit of that paper). He played his cards right, came out hundreds of millions of dollars ahead, and then he got out . He's not in this to control your social life or any…

I think comparing Facebook to having access to water or power is a bit of a reach.

If you have access to your friends, you can get water and power. It doesn't work the other way around.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by kragen »

noahc wrote: post #111
randomdata wrote: post #87

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The term computer used to mean a person who sat at a desk doing mathematical calculations. When someone talks about their Amazon computing cluster, I don't picture a huge office building full of people putting pen to paper, crunching numbers all day long, even though that is exactly what computing cluster would have meant at one point in time. When the term sharecropper is used, one will naturally turn to the meaning…

The term sharecropper has two meanings. The first one is the modern day practice. "He's a sharecropper because he uses share cropping in his business" refers to the modern day agricultural practice. Whatever economic system they use is irrelevant. In almost all other cases, particularly in regards to Technology, it refers to the old school practice of share cropping and is using it as such. Present day usage has noth…

The old-school practice is the same as the modern-day practice: the landlord rented his land to tenant farmers in exchange for a share of their crop. randomdata's statement:

> In farming, sharecropping is the low risk way to grow your business. It is the landlord that takes on much of the burden if the crop fails. But with small risk comes small reward.

is just as true of sharecropping in 1911 as of sharecropping in 2011.

The difference he draws between sharecropping on a farm and sharecropping on a web site doesn't make sense, though.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by chrischen »

nickswan wrote: post #150
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #94

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If everyone had known from the start that Facebook would make that kind of deal and kick all other apps of the same kind out, it would have been OK. But running a platform that is supposedly governed by rules and then using underhand tactics like these to kill apps arbitrarily is not OK. It puts a big question mark on Facebook as a platform and I think the author of the article is right that everyone should think ver…

You run this risk when you build on or using any type of platform. If you build something that is hugely successful you might get acquired by the platform provider, or if it's cheaper they might build it themselves.

Yon't run this risk when building for Windows or OS X.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by dools »

kwamenum86 wrote: post #126

Interesting article and definitely a good read. But I find it interesting that it has broken the top 20 most upvoted articles of all time on HN and is threatening the top 10. This probably has to do with f8 and whatever amount of "upvote inflation" that may be taking place as a result of more users being on HN (6 of the top 10 all-time most upvoted links are from this year. Only one in the top 20 comes before 2010).…

This is OT but the term upvote inlfation made me think of it.

I don't see why any story gets more than, say, 300 votes. Honestly if a story gets more than a couple of hundred it's on the home page for at least a day - is that not enough? Why do people even bother continuing to upvote those stories?

To me it just suggests that comparatively no-one reads the newest section or votes there.

Basically the new pages is moving way too fast compared with the front page.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by rblion »

"If you are entrusting your life data to Facebook, or if you are depending on Facebook and its platform for your livelihood, beware. In the real Facebook world, there is no trust, and there is no friendship -- there is only money and power. Think really hard -- really, think -- before trusting Facebook or its employees with anything. Don't be a Facebook fool."

You have perfectly worded what I have felt. I've watched Facebook evolve into Big Brother over the past few years. People seem to have no idea that they don't see us as beings but as bytes.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by DougBTX »

nickswan wrote: post #150
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If everyone had known from the start that Facebook would make that kind of deal and kick all other apps of the same kind out, it would have been OK. But running a platform that is supposedly governed by rules and then using underhand tactics like these to kill apps arbitrarily is not OK. It puts a big question mark on Facebook as a platform and I think the author of the article is right that everyone should think ver…

You run this risk when you build on or using any type of platform. If you build something that is hugely successful you might get acquired by the platform provider, or if it's cheaper they might build it themselves.

You can generalise even further: when going into a business partnership, weight up the risks that the other party will become competitors in the future. That seems to be what is happening between Apple and Samsung at the moment.

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by freemarketteddy »

davidhollander wrote: post #131
kwamenum86 wrote: post #126

Interesting article and definitely a good read. But I find it interesting that it has broken the top 20 most upvoted articles of all time on HN and is threatening the top 10. This probably has to do with f8 and whatever amount of "upvote inflation" that may be taking place as a result of more users being on HN (6 of the top 10 all-time most upvoted links are from this year. Only one in the top 20 comes before 2010).…

> the top 20 most upvoted articles of all time I don't think that's an accurate list, as it excludes [dead]ed articles. Zed Shaw's "Programming, Motherfucker" received 870 upvotes: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2355427

what is the link to the deaded article

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by freemarketteddy »

freemarketteddy wrote: post #168
davidhollander wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the top 20 most upvoted articles of all time I don't think that's an accurate list, as it excludes [dead]ed articles. Zed Shaw's "Programming, Motherfucker" received 870 upvotes: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2355427

what is the link to the deaded article

http://programming-motherfucker.com/

Re: I was once a Facebook fool

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Post by gnosis »

numair wrote: post #88

Wow, well, this got way more attention than I wanted. First, to be clear -- I have nothing against the guy who took Dave Morin's job (who wasn't supposed to be named -- Amazon CloudFront didn't bother to invalidate its cache when I uploaded the final edit of that paper). He played his cards right, came out hundreds of millions of dollars ahead, and then he got out . He's not in this to control your social life or any…

"But anyway, that's a whole 'nother subject, and I'd rather be coding (or socializing!) than writing."

What you wrote here is insightful and well put. I hope you write more.

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