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MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#251

> Designing a monospace font is much harder than a traditional, proportional one: being constrained by the same width of all glyphs can result in a boring or unreadable font. A very ironic statement because I find the font to be absolutely unreadable.

And I find it very readable and pleasant. This is why there's more than one font in the world.

But there shouldn't, one day Comic Sans will rule them all.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#252
The roman (not italic or script, though) “g” is horrible and doesn't fit with the other letters that would normally sit their main body on the baseline but also have a descender. Why is its upper portion raised and squashed, and it's tail so misshapen?

I cannot look at text in this font without the feeling that every “g” is reaching out from the screen and slapping me in the eye.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#253

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I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun…

It's a good font for those that think that the world and computer technology peaked in 1971. I don't share that opinion.

I don't think it necessarily peaked, but the IBM PC represents an inflection point - it was built on top of the office equipment more cozy aesthetics rather than the computer division's cleaner and minimalistic visual identity. The PC has a George Gershwin vibe while the terminals such as the 3278 have a definite Emerson, Lake and Palmer techo-utopia thing to it.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#254

If you're willing to spend money on a font for coding, then do yourself a favor and take a look at PragmataPro as well. I bought a license (checks notes...) 8 years ago and it has served me very well. If I was not down to pay for a font, then I'd probably use one of Iosevka's forms. Personally, however, it became clear to me that just like my monitor, the font I spend hours looking at every day is also worth some mon…

There's also Iosevka[1] which is open source[2] and also similar to Pragmata. It even has a Pragmata Pro Style. [1] - https://typeof.net/Iosevka/ [2] - https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka

Yeah - I paid for Pragmata back in the day and totally forgot about it when Iosevka appeared. Even reminds me a little bit of 6x13 which I used for so long with my Dell 22"...

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#255
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I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun…

I hate your font, but upvoted you to celebrate the diversity of human perception. :-D I think it is wild that so many of us have these very strong, yet radically different, opinions.

Don't get people started on vim and Emacs...

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#256

The roman (not italic or script, though) “g” is horrible and doesn't fit with the other letters that would normally sit their main body on the baseline but also have a descender. Why is its upper portion raised and squashed, and it's tail so misshapen? I cannot look at text in this font without the feeling that every “g” is reaching out from the screen and slapping me in the eye.

It's very funny to me how the 99€ Plus version and 199€ Pro version advertise an alternate g as a selling feature.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#257
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Does DRM exist for typefaces?

The shapes of a font cannot be copyrighted, trademarked or patented. The name can be trademarked. The code itself for the font is copyrighted.

Careful what you say about copyright. While this might be true (up to some degree) in the USA & Japan, it’s definitely not true in many other countries (e.g. Germany, France, Russia & the UK).

In the US it might also be possible to protect a font design with a design patent, so even there you should be careful about assuming it’s safe to copy a font’s design…

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#258

The roman (not italic or script, though) “g” is horrible and doesn't fit with the other letters that would normally sit their main body on the baseline but also have a descender. Why is its upper portion raised and squashed, and it's tail so misshapen? I cannot look at text in this font without the feeling that every “g” is reaching out from the screen and slapping me in the eye.

It’s a bit odd but doesn’t bother me too much. The totally different italicized “a” really throws me off and looks like an “o” to my blurry pre-coffee morning eyes.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#259
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I am the only one who finds fonts a bit expensive for personal use? It is not a rant, I am not saying it isn't worth it, that font designers can't make money, etc... But that puts it on the same level as tools like Sublime Text or Beyond Compare. For me, it is enough of a turn off not to use a commercial font, especially considering that the free offering is quite good. I totally understand the higher price for comme…

Yeah, unfortunately I can't really see a viable use case for professional (i.e. paid for) fonts for personal use. Like you, I understand that font designers need to make money, but there's just not $60+ of value in a font for me, particularly one where my reaction is "oh, this seems like it might be marginally better than my current font, maybe I'll check it out".

It's just barely hitting the potential value where I'm willing to hit the download button, tacking on another $60 on top of that is just a complete non-starter for me. And trying to make money by shame (i.e. font makers deserve money) doesn't seem like it's viable long-term.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

#260
post #257
post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shapes of a font cannot be copyrighted, trademarked or patented. The name can be trademarked. The code itself for the font is copyrighted.

Careful what you say about copyright. While this might be true (up to some degree) in the USA & Japan, it’s definitely not true in many other countries (e.g. Germany, France, Russia & the UK). In the US it might also be possible to protect a font design with a design patent, so even there you should be careful about assuming it’s safe to copy a font’s design…

Is this enforced to any realistic degree? For example, is something like Arial, which is a clear derivative of Helvetica permitted?
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