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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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As a Canadian I humbly request Americans stay out of our politics, particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations. Get your own house in order, don't encourage wannabe insurrectionists who had a manifesto to take over the government in blatantly undemocratic ways.

Looking through your recent comments, there are multiple examples of you commenting on American politics and monetary policy...

Sure. Did they give money to US politicians?

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As a Canadian I humbly request Americans stay out of our politics, particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations. Get your own house in order, don't encourage wannabe insurrectionists who had a manifesto to take over the government in blatantly undemocratic ways.

That is ironic coming from a Canadian. Just recently, a lot of money poured in from Canada to support the farmer protest in India. Here is one example: https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers PS: Not that I support the current Canadian protests. Edit: Some other examples: 1. https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bil... 2. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... 3. https:/…

As an Indian, this double standard was the most amusing thing for me in all these. When farmers in India protested, Canadian PM himself supported them (probably because he wanted the Sikh community votes?).

Indian government only used police officers with batons and were sometimes chased away by the protesters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qFKUtfvMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7so5TwIMyM

Then yesterday I saw videos of heavily armed RCMP officers deployed to remove some of the blockades!

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As a Canadian I humbly request Americans stay out of our politics, particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations. Get your own house in order, don't encourage wannabe insurrectionists who had a manifesto to take over the government in blatantly undemocratic ways.

The majority of the donors were Canadian, so presumably you're in favor of the multiple millions of dollars flowing to the group from Canadians?

You can look at the data - there were around twice as many foreign donations than Canadian ones.

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ffs... > Abortion in Canada is legal at all stages of pregnancy, regardless of the reason, and is publicly funded as a medical procedure under the combined effects of the federal Canada Health Act and provincial health-care systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Canada

And Trump has never, and will never be the Canadian Prime Minister, yet we see plenty of Trump flags at these protests.

And confederate flags too, for that matter.

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> A number of illegal weapons...were seized in a blockade in Alberta. > https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro... Your link doesn't describe anything as "illegal weapons." It just says "long guns" and "handguns" which are both pretty broad terms that undoubtedly encompass guns that are legal in Canada.

Most hand guns are prohibited[0] weapons in Canada. You need explicit authorization to transport [2] prohibited weapons. There are pretty strict rules[3] for how they're to be transported, too. You're not just allowed to drive around with handguns rattling around in the car, this isn't the US. Large capacity magazines are illegal in almost all cases [1]. Even that machete might be illegal given the context [4]. [0] h…

A machete may be considered a weapon in certain contexts, but that's not a unique law. The US also reclassifies things as weapons once they are used as weapons (in that instance.) Attack someone with a machete and it suddenly becomes a deadly weapon.

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>there is no violence, and no obvious danger While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents, there was attempted arson, there is continued intimidation and harassment of those wearing masks, there is intimidation of visible minorities, there are attacks on businesses.... Is that enough to convince you that the situation is out of hand and than stricter action is needed? The protestors haven'…

I didn't downvote you, but you're using extreme language like "torture" (I know noise and sleep deprivation are associated with torture but this sort of verbal escalation is not objective) and the only in-depth reporting I've seen on the arson thing makes it seem completely debunked: https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/1490557119816425474 (or https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/1490525934948081666 - I'm not sure what the…

It's absolutely torture. I don't live in Ottawa, but I was eating at a restaurant near the trucker protest that sprung up in my city two weeks ago, and I nearly lost my mind just hearing the horns blaring for an hour straight. I can't even imagine what the poor people in Ottawa are going through.

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Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach. I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anyt…

>had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive Recent history does not support this view. When left-wing railway blockades shut down the entire CN rail network, there was no "brutal and decisive" response. It took the better part of a year to resolve, and the OPP didn't enforce the court ordered injunction CN got, and the Liberal government was meeting frequently with the…

Even though many Anglo left-wing groups are sympathetic to, and act in solidarity with the First Nations, is it accurate to label indigenous protesters as left-wing protesters? How united was the left when the Mohawks stood in the way of Quebecois nationalism? Perhaps it is imprecise to conflate incipient nationalist groups within Canada with "left-wing."

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Just get vaccinated. It takes, like, 5 minutes.

No. It is immoral for a healthy, COVID recovered man to get a vaccine best used in the third world. To travel, and get around my moral qualms, I signed up for a vaccine trial. I was refused or got the placebo.

I've heard this spin multiple times.

Fun fact - people who live or have lived in disease-plagued areas of the world are far more likely to willingly adhere to guidelines on masks, isolation, and the like, because they've seen, firsthand, the devastating effect of pandemics and epidemics.

Let's not pretend for one moment that your average antivaxxer in the US or Canada is in any way on some sort of moral crusade for the third world.

It's just a "better" reason than "because I'm selfish".

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#729
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It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

> "there is no violence, and no obvious danger." This is false and I would expect better of HN posters. A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire. Although nobody has been injured yet, there have been plenty of weapons seizures as well as incidents of protestors ramming police vehicles and/or attempting to arrest police o…

>A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire. For some reason the media failed to show the images in their stories, but the two arsonists on camera (not a group) had purple hair. With all the talk of white supremacist instigators at BLM riots, I wouldn't be surprised if this were a case of the opposite, anti-trucker instigators trying to give the protestors a bad name, and purple hair is more likely associated with the left...which ironically has taken a pro government stance on this issue.

In any case afaik no actual tie to the protests has been reported.

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post #725
post #689

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Most hand guns are prohibited[0] weapons in Canada. You need explicit authorization to transport [2] prohibited weapons. There are pretty strict rules[3] for how they're to be transported, too. You're not just allowed to drive around with handguns rattling around in the car, this isn't the US. Large capacity magazines are illegal in almost all cases [1]. Even that machete might be illegal given the context [4]. [0] h…

A machete may be considered a weapon in certain contexts, but that's not a unique law. The US also reclassifies things as weapons once they are used as weapons (in that instance.) Attack someone with a machete and it suddenly becomes a deadly weapon.

Canada bans a lot of weapons for looking "scary" -- nunchuks and butterfly knives for example (both of which are rather notoriously more dangerous to the person wielding them than anybody else). Americans who come to Canada are frequently surprised by the different laws up here. Yes, an attack with a machete renders it illegal in both countries. A concealed machete is illegal in Canada, regardless of intent or use. I'm not so sure about the US (especially with the variance among state laws)
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