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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by motohagiography »

Comments I've read say the file has over 100k names, postal codes, and email addresses of people who have donated. Now, they've likely been radicalized by being doxed, and they can find each other both online, and by postal code.

By releasing this data, these hackers have provided probably the most valuable organizing, fundraising, and sales pipeline list for conservative causes and businesses ever created in the country, and it is that quality of forethought that I think makes this a Canadian state backed operation. The wisdom behind this was truly exemplary.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by smokelegend »

moralestapia wrote: post #514
purephase wrote: post #489

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Yes, I am. Noise pollution has the same effect on people regardless of the source. You pretty much proved my point by diminishing the one particular source of noise that you personally don't consider "as bad".

14-16hrs? Seems a bit weak.

How about 24hrs? Now that's torture, or as we Americans like to claim "enhanced interrogation"... [Enemy combatants were exposed to sensory deprivation which included 24hrs of American heavy metal music and 24hrs of flood spotlights to prevent sleeping.]

I get it, after living peacefully before these protests started it might appear as torture, however it is again just annoying behavior not torture. As mentioned by other comments, ear plugs are a thing, sleeping pills could help, glass of warm milk perhaps.

You have options in this scenario, unlike when you are being physically tortured, you have no options but to endure.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by JacobThreeThree »

mywittyname wrote: post #378
ineedasername wrote: post #161

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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach. I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anyt…

>had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive

Recent history does not support this view.

When left-wing railway blockades shut down the entire CN rail network, there was no "brutal and decisive" response. It took the better part of a year to resolve, and the OPP didn't enforce the court ordered injunction CN got, and the Liberal government was meeting frequently with the protestors.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-miller-path-forward-pr...

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by Apocryphon »

beerandt wrote: post #625
Apocryphon wrote: post #160

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Nantucket and Minneapolis both belong to the same political union. Canada is not yet a constituent member of the United States.

For matters of state jurisdiction, like police power, it's interstate and extraunion. As opposed to -lets say- issues related to international trade and crossing an international border between two signatories to NAFTA/USMCA.

A blockade of the border is a matter of international concern, the occupation of Ottawa is not unless the stability of the regime is in question, which would be of interest to the State Department.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by redml »

purephase wrote: post #594
adolph wrote: post #579

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Canada is confusing. The below two comments come from the same person, likely Canadian, referring to other Canadians who are an extreme minority who are not the minority. > > A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority > These people are not the minority.

My mistake. In my first comment, I should have referred to the truck convoy protesters as perceiving themselves as having minority status. I made this comment before people starting to compare these protests to BLM, which is for a an actual minority group.

thats a lot of mental gymnastics you're doing there to avoid that cognitive dissonance

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by rpeden »

FireBeyond wrote: post #678
rpeden wrote: post #656

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Even worse, it wasn't just truck horns. There were several trucks driving around with train horns installed. And plenty of the apartments in Centretown are right up against the street. I don't think making 80+ decibels of noise 10 feet from people's windows is even an okay way to protest, no matter who you are or what your cause is. I used to live in this neighbourhood, right by Somerset and Metcalfe. Protests happen…

80? I had heard in some cases it'd been measured at up to 140dB.

I wouldn't doubt that for the train horns, especially outdoors. ~80db inside an apartment is what I heard personally from someone I trust who lives there still, so that's usually what I go with.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by FireBeyond »

pessimizer wrote: post #628
j_walter wrote: post #462

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>A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority and, even in OPs post they mention that the Toronto police handled it properly, but question the admonition levied against the Ottawa police. >The Ottawa police are complicit in this now as well as city council. They sat on their hands while allowing this to spiral out of control, and now want to play the victim or blame others (e.g. blaming counter protesters toda…

A major difference is that the police would issue dispersal orders, then attack the BLM protesters indiscriminately, or call curfews which basically declared open season on any kind of protester, journalist, civilian, doing anything outdoors after X o'clock. The police were shooting rubber bullets at people sitting on their own porches. This is not how Ottawa is being handled, this is not how January 6th was handled,…

> A major difference is that the police would issue dispersal orders, then attack the BLM protesters indiscriminately, or call curfews which basically declared open season on any kind of protester, journalist, civilian, doing anything outdoors after X o'clock. The police were shooting rubber bullets at people sitting on their own porches.

Whilst also advising Proud Boys and Three Per Centers of their "enforcement plans", texting them to "take cover" and that they'd be given an "all clear" when they come back out.

Or being advised that although their leaders had active arrest warrants, that they would not be arrested at any protests that were "supervised" by Portland Police Department, so they should "feel free" to come to protests.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

manquer wrote: post #506
ceejayoz wrote: post #439

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> These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no? That's fair, yes. Economically disruptive, but largely peaceful. I'd wager the left isn't going to pass "it's legal to run over protesters" in response to these, though. https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iow...

Sleep deprivation and continuous noise is considered torture under Geneva Convention and by the U.N.[1] and Canadian law[2]. U.S. and others have been condemned heavily for using such techniques and U.S. has since stopped (at least officially) even in black ops places like Gitmo. Protests and blockade are one thing, continuous noise in areas where people live and work is not peaceful . [1] https://tbinternet.ohchr.or…

It seems super disingenuous to imply that noisy protests are "violent" by citing laws and regulations which pertain to the treatment of detainees.

Our media entertained a serious debate about whether looting or burning a neighborhood to the ground was "violence" or not, and the many preferred to refer to these events as "fiery but mostly peaceful protests". How did we go from that to tenuous analogies of torture?

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by BoorishBears »

busterarm wrote: post #424
BoorishBears wrote: post #231

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This doesn't feel like a reply in good faith. I mean it's easy enough to see the political aspect here isn't tied to the political leanings of news source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/freedom-convoy-trucker-canadas... I got the impression you were browbeating me for not intentionally ignoring very plain context as you did, and you seem to be confirming that.

Not a reply in good faith? I stated from the beginning that this is a class issue and not a left/right one. You in your very first reply said "being objective here" and then went on some screed about how this is obviously left wing vs right wing politics. Then I stated that if you look at the only actual interviews being done with these people and hear them in their own words they say that this is not a left wing vs…

> I stated from the beginning that this is a class issue and not a left/right one.

And you are blatantly wrong. You omitted mentioning left/right when talking about a conservative protest, that does not change the fact it's a conservative protest.

You're certainly free to keep floundering about this but it won't change the simple reality:

Freedom Convoy is a largely conservative protest, as it is largely speaking to conservative talking points.

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That doesn't mean every person there is a conservative, it does not mean being against vaccine mandates makes you a conservative, it simply means the people most represented by the tenants of the convoy are conservatives.

You are commenting in bad faith because either you don't know enough about this subject to realize it's a right-oriented movement... or you're aware of this but intentionally trying to bury that fact to force a pretty unrelated diatribe.

> Not anywhere did I tell you to refer to Fox News as a source for content

You tried to blame my source of news for a take not at all tied to news articles, which was ridiculous.

To humor you I chose one that was opposite of the ones you mentioned, the source of news does not change the reality that this is a conservative movement.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by sudosysgen »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #665
sudosysgen wrote: post #658

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Do I need a citation that people honking to cause a distrubance intended to disturb?

> Do I need a citation that people honking to cause a distrubance intended to disturb? Wow, that's quite a comment and a remarkably transparent backpedaling from "intent to cause harm".

From the Merriam Webster,

Disturbance, 2) : noisy or violent activity : commotion

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