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I didn't join in on the BLM protests because I'm neither American nor arrogant enough to tell Americans how they want to run their society. Ban foreign money entering your political system. Nothing good will ever come from it.
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I think one point that the last two years has nailed home (around the world) is that how protestors are treated has little to do with what their tactics and behavior are, and more to do with simply whether their message ideologically aligns with the police. If the police agree with some group of protestors, then they're treated with kid gloves, and can get away with anything. The police will throw their hands up and…
Things I’ve seen this year. People who Molotov cocktailed a police van with people inside. Let off with probation. Police beat an unconscious person until they died. Internal investigation cleared them of wrongdoing. It definitely matters what the protest is supporting/fighting.
Reading this thread demonstrate to me why we (as a society, no matter where you're living) can't live together as we've been doing anymore. The ideas are colliding in too many areas and all of them look like a rat trap. Something hostile in human behavior we are unable to remove is deeply rotten and who knows how we can fix it. This are sad (but non desperate) times to live.
I don't think much has changed, what has changed is we now have the Internet and technology, enabling the ideas and information to be heard.
> I don't think much has changed, what has changed is we now have the Internet and technology, enabling the ideas and information to be heard.
It's not just that. The internet and technology also allow an unprecedented levels of disconnection, dehumanization, and "filter bubble"-ing.
IRL interaction put breaks on a lot things that online interaction has now removed.
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With a couple rouge agents being your definition of obvious danger, there can never be another protest. Apply that same logic to the protests a year before and see how it goes
I feel like that is an understatement. This is not a few good old boys throwing a snowball. It's acts of arson, attempted murder, probably fits the definition of terrorism. And that's just the apartment building incident. And of course the protests a year before were in no part better.
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That's fine, you have every right to your suspicions, but unless you feel you have better information about the incident than the police that investigated it, I'm not really sure what your comment adds. The GP made the claim that protestors in Ottawa tried to burn a condo down and a quote from the police chief proves this to be false. This is one of several accounts I use because my personal identity is tied to my ma…
Reading this thread demonstrate to me why we (as a society, no matter where you're living) can't live together as we've been doing anymore. The ideas are colliding in too many areas and all of them look like a rat trap. Something hostile in human behavior we are unable to remove is deeply rotten and who knows how we can fix it. This are sad (but non desperate) times to live.
Wikipedia current events is my “news” source now and I couldn’t be happier
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>there is no violence, and no obvious danger While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents, there was attempted arson, there is continued intimidation and harassment of those wearing masks, there is intimidation of visible minorities, there are attacks on businesses.... Is that enough to convince you that the situation is out of hand and than stricter action is needed? The protestors haven'…
I didn't downvote you, but you're using extreme language like "torture" (I know noise and sleep deprivation are associated with torture but this sort of verbal escalation is not objective) and the only in-depth reporting I've seen on the arson thing makes it seem completely debunked: https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/1490557119816425474 (or https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/1490525934948081666 - I'm not sure what the…
That passes beyond "nuisance". Extreme situations can utilize extreme language.
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> this sort of verbal escalation is not objective Objectively, the sonic onslaught of their constantly blaring truck horns is equal in effect to well-known psychological warfare tactics. It is fair and accurate to call it torture in this context.
Even worse, it wasn't just truck horns. There were several trucks driving around with train horns installed. And plenty of the apartments in Centretown are right up against the street. I don't think making 80+ decibels of noise 10 feet from people's windows is even an okay way to protest, no matter who you are or what your cause is. I used to live in this neighbourhood, right by Somerset and Metcalfe. Protests happen…
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> I’m not familiar with Canadian law on the subject That's the crux of this - their weaponry was way out of line according to Canadian law.
I think it's not the worst thing in the world for there to be visual elements inspired by the 2nd Amendment. If nothing else, it puts pressure on the government and shows that many free thinkers have solidarity with Canadians.
Interesting side thought, this whole debacle has made me see the real value of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies..
I'm not at-all familiar with Canadian law, but receiving money from foreign donors for political activity is often illegal. These funding platforms would probably need you to disclose who you are even if you gave bitcoin.