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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by dang »

purephase wrote: post #455
canadianeh2 wrote: post #20

i have a 4 year old daughter in ontario who has never seen her friends faces or her teacher's face. she eats outside even when it's -20. as of today, no end in sight for these rules. why? it's shameful. im surprised the civil unrest in canada isnt worse.

Unless there's some crazy school board out there, there's no way they have kids eating outside when it's -20. Most school boards won't even have outdoor recess on days like that. I have 11 nieces and nephews in 5 different school boards in Ontario, and not one of them has these restrictions. They eat indoors, they can take their masks off at lunch, and during gym class. Their teachers regularly post videos for studen…

Comments like this will get you banned here, no matter how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If you'd please review the site guidelines and stick to the rules when posting to HN, we'd appreciate it. Your comment would be completely fine—and considerably more persuasive—without those beginning and end bits.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by rpaldb »

dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

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Post by honkdaddy »

Naga wrote: post #602
honkdaddy wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arson thing was pretty thoroughly debunked. "I would expect better of HN posters."

When was that debunked? The last I heard the police were investigating. I even saw video from it. https://ottawacitizen.com/news/police-arson-unit-probes-otta...

A direct quote from the Ottawa police chief:

"We don’t have any direct linkage between the occupation—the demonstrators—and that act." [1]

[1]https://www.cpac.ca/episode?id=fa5721d6-af8b-48d9-9848-73dcf...

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Post by j_walter »

oo0shiny wrote: post #487
j_walter wrote: post #462

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>A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority and, even in OPs post they mention that the Toronto police handled it properly, but question the admonition levied against the Ottawa police. >The Ottawa police are complicit in this now as well as city council. They sat on their hands while allowing this to spiral out of control, and now want to play the victim or blame others (e.g. blaming counter protesters toda…

Andy Ngo isn't exactly a reliable source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo#Credibility

He posts video...how is raw video not a reliable source? He certainly has an agenda, but also posts things that many will not. He was not afraid to post video when the actual news teams were threatened and attacked during the riots (by specific groups that you can't really talk about since they don't exist...it's just an idea).

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Post by ctoth »

cf100clunk wrote: post #491
ctoth wrote: post #444

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> While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents Why did you use the word torture here? Torture is a well-defined word with an accepted meaning. Do you feel that it is appropriate? Or are you looking for an emotionally-loaded reaction? Can I also claim that my loud college neighbors are torturing me when they stay up too late on the weekend? Of course I can, but it sure is disingenuous to an…

If a person or group knowingly deploys sonic psychological warfare techniques upon innocent people, they are torturers. In this context, the constant blaring of truck horns is deliberate and not meant in kindness or frivolity. The negative psychological effects upon the local residents are now well known and well documented.

Okay but the thing about torture is, in order to be torture you must be prevented from leaving the situation. Are they literally trapping people in their homes? No. You just really really don't like them and so are trying to delegitimize their protest with use of loaded language. Torture means things like having your skin pealed off or your fingernails removed. Torture means things like being imprisoned and repeatedly being made to feel as though you are drowning. Constant honking must certainly be annoying! But as far as I'm aware, protests are supposed to be uncomfortable and annoying. This is not torture. It's like terrorist. The word terrorist now means somebody did a thing that the government doesn't like. Are we going to do this same thing with torture? Because I'm not here for it.

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Post by spoils19 »

cf100clunk wrote: post #437
User23 wrote: post #412

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Was there any actual violence? If not then it was peaceful. Merely being armed certainly increases the capacity for violence, but it’s not violence in and of itself. I’m not familiar with Canadian law on the subject, so I don’t know if possession of the items in question is unlawful or if there was some other cause for the arrests.

> I’m not familiar with Canadian law on the subject That's the crux of this - their weaponry was way out of line according to Canadian law.

I think it's not the worst thing in the world for there to be visual elements inspired by the 2nd Amendment. If nothing else, it puts pressure on the government and shows that many free thinkers have solidarity with Canadians.

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Post by adolph »

paulmd wrote: post #488
kerneloftruth wrote: post #454

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Yes. I've seen no evidence of stores being looted, businesses burned, or anybody throwing rocks at police -- all of which were common in 2020 BLM protests.

Well, now you have. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-in... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... As for the police - helps that a lot of them were tacitly helping the rioters. As usual, giving them fuel and supplies, and ignoring clear-cut violations of the law. Why throw rocks at an ally? Toronto and other cities may have shut them down, but the Ottawa cops were pre…

On the footage, he described seeing two individuals lighting a fire in the lobby shortly after 5 a.m. Sunday. After the suspects leave, another individual is seen coming into view and quickly extinguishing the fire near the elevators, Munoz said.

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Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest.

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Post by rpaldb »

smnrchrds wrote: post #584
dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

> there is no violence, and no obvious danger A number of illegal weapons, high capacity magazines, and a large quantity of ammunition were seized in a blockade in Alberta. I would not be surprised if there are people with weapons in Ottawa as well, waiting for an opportunity to strike. https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro...

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Post by tablespoon »

smnrchrds wrote: post #584
dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

> there is no violence, and no obvious danger A number of illegal weapons, high capacity magazines, and a large quantity of ammunition were seized in a blockade in Alberta. I would not be surprised if there are people with weapons in Ottawa as well, waiting for an opportunity to strike. https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro...

> A number of illegal weapons...were seized in a blockade in Alberta.

> https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro...

Your link doesn't describe anything as "illegal weapons." It just says "long guns" and "handguns" which are both pretty broad terms that undoubtedly encompass guns that are legal in Canada.

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Post by spoils19 »

nostrademons wrote: post #62
albroland wrote: post #36

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I'd think it's far more likely that GiveSendGo doesn't have the most sophisticated and well maintained tech stack and an exploit was easily found by hacktivists engaging in defacement and doxxing.

It was an open S3 bucket linked from the source code of the Freedom Convoy's donation page: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-con...

An open S3 bucket is a huge red flag that this feels state manufactured. Most people aligned with this protest probably possess the technical chops to know to do better.
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