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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by loginatnine »

canadianeh2 wrote: post #20

i have a 4 year old daughter in ontario who has never seen her friends faces or her teacher's face. she eats outside even when it's -20. as of today, no end in sight for these rules. why? it's shameful. im surprised the civil unrest in canada isnt worse.

Nobody eat outside, especially at -20C you're just lying.

My 4 years old at the kindergarden doesn't wear a mask and neither does her classmates. She eats indoor every day.

My 7 years old in first grade wears a mask indoor but not outdoor. She eats inside with all of her classmates, unmasked.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #551
throwaway894345 wrote: post #550

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From your own overtly biased link: > Under the new law, an Oklahoma driver will no longer be liable for striking — or even killing — a person if the driver is “fleeing from a riot ... under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death.” Super disingenuous to characterize that as "it's legal to run over protesters".

Never seen a cop get off with "I feared for my life", eh?

Occasionally self-defense laws protect guilty people, but that doesn't imply that the law isn't a self-defense law. I'm sure there's lots of good criticism of this law, but characterizing it as the OP did is patent dishonesty. Even Vox wasn't willing to go that far ffs.

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Post by alisonkisk »

mywittyname wrote: post #378
ineedasername wrote: post #161

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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach. I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anyt…

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Post by throwaway894345 »

sudosysgen wrote: post #561
throwaway894345 wrote: post #544

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If your noisy neighbor was setting of a blowhorn with a high duty cycle for multiple days with the express intent to cause harm to you, it would probably be fair to call that some form of assault.

> with the express intent to cause harm

Citation?

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Post by TurningCanadian »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #372
corry wrote: post #293

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Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government. And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

> Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, The original quote was "de facto barred". If something is "inconvenient to the point that it makes the trip infeasible" it's pretty much as good as barring entry. > And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition. I'm vax…

First, vaccines do inhibit transmission. They're not perfect, and the protection begins to wane after a few months, but to say that they don't inhibit transmission is false.

Further, the vaccines have consistently significantly reduced hospitalization, and most Canadian hospitals continue to be stretched with a long backlog. The continued strain from COVID hospitalizations continues to impact others. Freedom has always been limited when it interferes with the rights of others, (in this case timely access to healthcare) and borders have always had stricter rules than normal life within a country.

We're in a gray area here, granted. Ideally ones' own health choices would not impact others, and hospitals would be back to normal, but the restrictions are not nonsense.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

purephase wrote: post #447
eldaisfish wrote: post #420

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>there is no violence, and no obvious danger While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents, there was attempted arson, there is continued intimidation and harassment of those wearing masks, there is intimidation of visible minorities, there are attacks on businesses.... Is that enough to convince you that the situation is out of hand and than stricter action is needed? The protestors haven'…

I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie. But, most of them are not residents of Ottawa, and the lived experiences of people in that city, particurlarly those who have had run ins wi…

> I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie.

Wait and you've extrapolated this from claims of a downvote made in the first hour after posting a reply on a politically controversial topic? HN is a huge site, are you really expecting unanimous political views? This is par for the course on these threads.

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Post by sudosysgen »

verisimi wrote: post #288
HappySweeney wrote: post #67

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20 hours of air horn outside your window will make you ... irate.

... but 2 years of government mandated economic destruction is fine? They didn't do all this in Sweden.

Sweden's economy actually dropped harder than ours in Canada. The government was really generous, and while many especially in hospitality are worse off, few were truly devastated.

None of which are the supposed leaders of the manifestation, truckers, which actually did pretty well through all this - ask me why.

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Post by adolph »

purephase wrote: post #483
AzzieElbab wrote: post #467

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what is wrong with listening to "minorities". Doesnt BLM represent a minority, especially in Canada? Also, a couple of confederate and nazi flags do not define these protests.

Hahaha.. this is a hilarious comment. These people are not the minority. They're self-professed victimes of so-called tyranny that doesn't exist. The sheer fact that they're able to protest for this long, in this way, at the nations capital is ample evidence that this so-called tyranny they're fighting is a delusion. Equivocating that with the lived experience of millions of people who are fighting for true equality…

Canada is confusing. The below two comments come from the same person, likely Canadian, referring to other Canadians who are an extreme minority who are not the minority.

> > A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority

> These people are not the minority.

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Post by purephase »

AzzieElbab wrote: post #522
purephase wrote: post #483

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Hahaha.. this is a hilarious comment. These people are not the minority. They're self-professed victimes of so-called tyranny that doesn't exist. The sheer fact that they're able to protest for this long, in this way, at the nations capital is ample evidence that this so-called tyranny they're fighting is a delusion. Equivocating that with the lived experience of millions of people who are fighting for true equality…

minority does not need to be defined by race sex or religion. What about people who had covid and reluctant about vaccines? All that word soup is irrelevant. Getting fired after having worked through the heights of epidemic is a serious "lived experience" and also "an ample evidence" of bureaucratic overreach. Anyway, bunch of provinces including Ontario already cancelled vaccine mandates and vaccine passports, only…

Getting fired for not getting vaccines was a line that I didn't agree with.

However, the vast majority of organizations that did this were private though, and it was the organization that implemented these policies. I'd hardly equate that with government overreach, and especially not the federal government if you're a nurse/healthcare worker, or worked in a local municipal government.

My point is that these protests don't have anything to do with vaccines, mandates or some perceived minority status that not following them bestows (which, again, is a choice..). If that was the case, they would not be in Ottawa. There might be some people paying lip service to these ideas, but the majority of the people protesting are self-labelling as minorities due to some perception of tyranny from the federal government that does not exist.

Unless you're a federal employee that was fired due to your position on vaccines (over 95% of federal employees are vaccinated) then protesting in Ottawa doesn't make any sense.

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