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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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I guess that's what counts as hacktivism these days. Doxxing working class people and their supporters. It's nice to see the left and right's true colors here and how easily they pulled back the veil of opposition to reveal their true contempt for the lower classes and the real class war underpinning everything. These last two years, I have seen so much scary authoritarianism from well-meaning people using their own…

Yes, it's very idealistic to think 'hacktivists' would take the upper ground here in what is already a very dirty fight. I mean you have 61% of donors not even being Canadians. They're funding a movement that shut down a major commerce corridor into the US, directly affecting the US economy. To say this is about the 'working class' is naive. I mean you think Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, was tweeting suppo…

A large number of donors for BLM weren't from the US. Do you also support doxing them?

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Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government. And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

> Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes,

The original quote was "de facto barred". If something is "inconvenient to the point that it makes the trip infeasible" it's pretty much as good as barring entry.

> And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

I'm vaxxed and boosted, but at this point it doesn't seem like vaccines inhibit transmission and thus it's purely a matter of bodily autonomy. "yield your right to bodily autonomy and you may enter" is some authoritarian nonsense.

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Jesus Christ, you can't just leave your S3 bucket open, guys. There are lots of warnings from Amazon before you end up doing that, and it's so easy to not do (pre-signed URLs if you really need a URL). I guess it's rather interesting to see the reactions from the media and HN comments. Sort of reflects the relative politics: - Patreon leak. Media didn't go download everyone's data and threaten to get info. HN blamed…

Patreon is a bay area startup with loads of VC funding. Their engineering team is well paid and people hold them to a higher standard.

GiveSendGo has amateurish security because it's an amateurish company.

Think of it this way. Patreon's security failure made bay area techies look bad because it turned out that you couldn't just hire a bunch of them and expect things to go well. GiveSendGo's security failure makes bay area techies look bad because it turns out cloud security isn't as easy as they'd like to think.

Also taking down small sites that provide services to the out group of the bay area is unacceptable in a democracy. It invites legislative reprisal.

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It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests. If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.

It's almost assuredly not done by someone who was directly 'annoyed' by the protests, that's a relatively small area, and hackers with skills are not that common.

The protests are an ideological touchstone, there are surely a lot of hackers in this world keen on 'exposing terrible people' (in their purview) and my money is on just some random 'hacker'.

I'm doubtful that it would be a government action, because those secrets are hard to keep and if it was leaked, the current political situation would collapse immediately. Trudeau & Co. would be gone for good. The details wouldn't really matter that much. I mean, he survived Blackface but he won't survive that kind of scandal.

That said, I'm pretty sure there was a de-facto systematic collusion between gov. offisials and GoFundMe etc. to shut down funding. The gov. can show GFM 'police reports' etc. and that can be used as a basis for cancellation. This is a bit problematic because all protests of a certain size have 'unlawful activity' and as soon as something is on the books, it's hard to put in context. This gives systems like GFM (or Apple, or Google or Amazon or VISA) the legitimate 'cover' to do kind of whatever.

I don't support the truckers, I see their TikTok's and they are rather uninformed antivaxxers, however, I kind of have to accept their right to protest.

Protesters in Portland literally took city blocks by force, threatened violence with serious weapons, two people died, there was tons of avoidable crime, police and rescue not allowed to enter etc. and they didn't seem to get quite the disdain that the truckers are, rather the press kind of just seemed to 'avoid them'. I understand every situation is different ... but still.

Truckers are dug in in Ottawa and Police are wary of confrontation, there's hints that the rank and file of Ott Police and RCMP are a bit sympathetic, and the Tow Trucker drivers are as well and don't want to face blowback. There is 'just enough empathy' among the Canadian public that it could 'tip in their favour' if we saw the firehoses or CS gas break out. It's definitely a very delicate political situation.

But in the end - Occam's Razor: some guy did this and leaked it, that's that.

They will eventually go home.

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... but 2 years of government mandated economic destruction is fine? They didn't do all this in Sweden.

You know the reason why things aren't back to normal has little to do with mandates and a lot to do with the fact that, mandate or not, there was a deadly virus hanging around for two years and that's gonna change social behavior anyway?

Things aren't back to normal because of politics. There have been places where things have been normal for over a year now.

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> True, but its much harder to dox this number of people if all you have is a big list of Bitcoin addresses. This is also true of any other mechanism: if this was just a list of credit card transaction IDs, it'd be hard to do much with it as well. The problem is when you combine those with other metadata and it seems highly unlikely that anyone would spontaneously stop collecting that information.

Sort of true, but also credit card numbers are useless without the PII metadata. If you're storing credit card info like this then you pretty much have to store the sensitive stuff that can be used to dox people alongside it. The metadata isn't a requirement in the Bitcoin case. In fact, the way that bitcoin works, you wouldn't even end up with a centralized list like this of all the donors to get leaked in the first…

Do you think they would not otherwise store names if they weren't accepting credit card donations? If they were using Bitcoin, I'd bet that the only difference might be the lack of a billing address — it seems exceedingly unlikely that the crowdsourcing site or people running the campaign weren't planning to be able to contact their supporters and in many cases they need that for accounting or tax purposes, too.

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Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government. And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

I literally said “de facto”. A 14 day quarantine when one has 10 days vacation a year is de facto a bar.

Nor did I argue, or am interested in arguing, the merits of banning the unvaccinated. I just stated that they are effectively banned from entry.

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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach.

I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anything the truckers will receive.

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If you are not mistaken, email your evidence to the mods. You can't post like this because it trashes the site and, unfortunately, almost all such posts are by people who turn out to have been mistaken or can't reliably show that that they weren't.

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Again, send you evidence to the mods.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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This one? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_lib%C3%A9ration_du_... The claim can be proven or disproven with elections. But I think that Trudeau would win rather easily pitted against this extremist, apparently foreign funded fringe. Even Canada's conservatives don't want to be associated with them anymore.

Conservatives are tabling a motion for a vote on removal of restrictions today. They’ve just performatively asked truckers to leave, so that they can always point to that later in their election campaign. Why would they want them to leave?they don’t.

I'm not a conservative mind you, but if your goal is to eventually get elected, you probably want to win on topics that will actually gain you votes vs. those that take them away.

This is a wedge issue, and as such they're casting their votes to alienate a huge (likely majority) of voters away from your platform before the leader has even been selected.

Secondly, this protest has been a huge news vacuum attracting non-stop coverage. This is bad for a party that needs to drum up any support for a leadership race to carry them more seats in the next election. By the time this plays out, the conservatives could be half way through their election and most Canadians may not even know the candidates.

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