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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by novok »

dehrmann wrote: post #258
jeroenhd wrote: post #29

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It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests. If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.

I doubt someone who lived that close to the honking had the ability and chutzpah to do this. After seeing how angry people got over Joe Rogan, I absolutely think there are militantly progressive people who are more concerned with the content of speech than the chilling effect of limiting free speech who would do this. Which isn't to say I agree with the Ottawa protesters or bridge blockaders; I think both went well o…

Why wouldn't they? I've heard they're all over city cores and you wouldn't think a socially inept tech worker or teenager in a toronto tower would get annoyed enough on a pure noise basis to do something like this?

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Post by 908B64B197 »

rajin444 wrote: post #172
gpm wrote: post #70

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> the timing of this seems to point to state sponsored hacking, no? No. The hack was obviously politically motivated, beyond that, nothing here points towards it being state sponsored. Non-state actors are equally motivated by the timing. The idea that the Canadian government hacked GiveSendGo is also frankly ridiculous. Our government just isn't that lawless, and they could almost certainly get this data via legal m…

> Our government just isn't that lawless Both recent and historical evidence does not really support this claim. It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit. I don’t think it was the Canadian government either, but your logic does not seem good.

> It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit.

The current premier's father had feds planting explosive in people’s mailboxes [0] and tried to pin it on some political group he didn’t like back in the 70’s. Talk about a coincidence.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involvin...

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Post by corry »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #269
criddell wrote: post #263

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Who is barred? I’ve travelled to Canada to visit family a number of times last year and once so far this year. I have another trip planned for late spring. Canadian citizens enter by right.

Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government.

And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

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Post by peeters »

native_samples wrote: post #225
peeters wrote: post #202

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The Wikipedia article is probably your best bet for a summary of factual information at this point. > One of the main organizers behind the convoy, Canada Unity (CU), acknowledged that they had planned to submit their signed "memorandum of understanding" (MoU) to the Senate of Canada and Governor General Mary Simon, described in the MoU as the "SCGGC". The MoU which was signed by James and Sandra Bauder and Martin Br…

So in other words, overthrowing the government isn't their goal. Their goal is: "CU called on the SCGGC to cease all vaccine mandates, reemploy all employees terminated due to vaccination status, and rescind all fines imposed for non-compliance with public health orders" The stuff about dissolving the government is what they want if those other things aren't done.

They were calling on the "SCGGC" to do those things, i.e. they were calling on unelected bodies to bypass the elected House (which, by the way, is currently a minority government and therefore is being held up with opposition support).

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Post by hammock »

ineedasername wrote: post #161
negzero7 wrote: post #15

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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

Are there non-authoritarians that want jab mandates so badly that they will hack websites to doxx innocent protestors? Could be, I haven't met any (thankfully)

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Post by dang »

busterarm wrote: post #240
dahfizz wrote: post #224

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This is way off base. dang is an excellent and fair moderator.

Usually. Nobody is perfect. There are certain topics and certain people that do not get moderated fairly and HN itself has certain biases that are encouraged or have opposition to them discouraged. If you know what they are, you know what they are. Bringing up HN's (often subtle but often not-so) bias against average poor people gets heavily moderated here. I give dang credit versus other moderators elsewhere who are…

> If you know what they are, you know what they are.

I don't know what they are! Perhaps you could clue me in at hn@ycombinator.com?

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Post by peter422 »

dehrmann wrote: post #258
jeroenhd wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests. If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.

I doubt someone who lived that close to the honking had the ability and chutzpah to do this. After seeing how angry people got over Joe Rogan, I absolutely think there are militantly progressive people who are more concerned with the content of speech than the chilling effect of limiting free speech who would do this. Which isn't to say I agree with the Ottawa protesters or bridge blockaders; I think both went well o…

So is somebody physically blocking a bridge with a giant truck and refusing to move it less militant than somebody pulling their music off Spotify and writing a letter explaining their choice?

Why did you use the term “militant” to describe the side that is not using military tactics.

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Post by brnaftr361 »

monkeybutton wrote: post #123
echelon wrote: post #100

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> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of " insurrection " makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speec…

Why is it a far left position to call out what protest leaders stated in their memorandum of understanding?

Here's how the MoU actually reads:

"Give us our shit back, Randy."

"No."

"Fuck right off, Randy."

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Post by Apocryphon »

soupbowl wrote: post #88
DFHippie wrote: post #12

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It's also dark that people respond to being governed by someone they didn't vote for by blockading their country's economy. And that this action is funded by people in other countries who never had a vote in the first place.

Hello, I am a Canadian and my government has allowed someone we did not vote in to shutdown our economy and restrict me. If the government can do that, we the citizens can do it. My province has increased covid rules and keeps pushing opening up for vaccinated down the road. While everywhere else is easing off. We can't even go to a gym to work out and our hospitals are way under normal capacity. I am not pro outside…

So you're saying that your country, Canada, yearns for freedom?
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