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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by ineedasername »

abernard1 wrote: post #95
czzr wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?

Because I'm sympathetic to their plight. I'm a class traitor frankly. My whole family works in jobs like this that have been impacted. One of my old co-founders was a 24 big-rig truck mechanic and his dad is being put out of business by the California CARB restrictions. But aside from the specifics, I find it odd that people are decrying cross-national donations of money to causes. Were similar complaints made about…

I don't think national disasters are in quite the same category of charitable giving.

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Post by db1234 »

czzr wrote: post #65
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?

Why not? Canadian PM expressed support for a protest going on in a foreign country last year which was purely an internal matter of that country.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by thinkcontext »

I'm confused, is only the truckers convoy data available or was all of GiveSendGo's database compromised? GiveSendGo hosts fundraising campaigns for the full constellation of alt-right, Proud Boy, J6, etc groups that don't get hosted by GoFundMe.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by newobj »

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

Mischaracterizing CHOP while critiquing a mischaracterization of CHOP. The head truly spins

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by renewiltord »

Jesus Christ, you can't just leave your S3 bucket open, guys. There are lots of warnings from Amazon before you end up doing that, and it's so easy to not do (pre-signed URLs if you really need a URL).

I guess it's rather interesting to see the reactions from the media and HN comments. Sort of reflects the relative politics:

- Patreon leak. Media didn't go download everyone's data and threaten to get info. HN blamed Patreon.

- GiveSendGo (a terrible name imho). Media downloads the data and threatens to get info. HN blames the hacker.

I think I'm going to choose consistency here. I hate these data breach guys, but it's sort of like I hate mosquitos. If I could cleanse the Earth of them I would, but I can't. So I accept they are just a natural constraint. But if your hotel has mosquitos I'm going to blame your hotel.

This 'hack' is dealing with amateurish security. If you're in a controversial place you've got to do better. GiveSendGo has a lot of work to do (unless this was something weird this specific campaign did). And their security position on this was terrible: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-con...

> TechCrunch contacted GiveSendGo co-founder Jacob Wells with details of the exposed bucket on Tuesday. The bucket was secured a short time later, but Wells did not respond to our questions, including if GiveSendGo planned on informing about the security lapse those whose information was exposed.

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Post by throw_m239339 »

soared wrote: post #71
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night? I’m not holding a strong opinion on the subject but it’s kind of silly bias to compare this to blm with your phrasing. Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison.

> I thought these protests were negatively affecting working class neighborhoods as well by honking horns during the night?

Truckers aren't burning down neighborhoods or looting small business right now. Yet a good chunk of Americans had no problem with all that US 2 years ago, in the middle of a freaking pandemic. But honking is now where people draw the line?

> Blacks have been through much much worse for hundreds of years, so the truckers going through troubling times for 2 years doesn’t really justify the comparison.

How is truckers struggles any less valid than any other? cause the people demonstrating are white or something?

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Post by powerslacker »

peeters wrote: post #80
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

Not an insurrection. Not trying to overthrow the government. Not illegal to send money to people you like or across borders. Not an overtly hostile act. Truckers have rights too.

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Post by busterarm »

adamrezich wrote: post #94
BoorishBears wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being objective here: - 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated, so why are you using working class as a substitute for protestor, then using that to call this class warfare? - Don't you think working class people will care most about this list? The people with the most time to scour lists and make angry tweets probably most likely aren't UHNW individuals... - Don't you see the irony is claiming authoritariani…

> 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated is this actually true, or is this just an extrapolation of "90% of Canadians are vaccinated"? regardless, it's not as though only 10% of truckers are involved in this protest...

Or that any less than 100% of truckers are working class.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by cjbgkagh »

peeters wrote: post #110
echelon wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of " insurrection " makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speec…

You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.

I haven't followed very closely so perhaps I missed it, but is there a source on that?

Only thing I can find is the reporting on Jagmeet Singh comments who is opposed to the truckers.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by nathanaldensr »

bawolff wrote: post #51
negzero7 wrote: post #15

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The protest is super unpopular in canada. It could just as easily be a random canadian citizen who is pissed about the protest and wants to prove that the protest is not grass roots but foreign meddling.

If protests were popular they wouldn't be protests.
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