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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by cycomanic »

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

Considering that you live in Austin how do you know the exact nature of the protests? Have you visited? Or is this what you read/saw in media?

It's also interesting how you contrast this to the BLM protests. I'm not sure how long a BLM protest would have been allowed to block a major traffic artery worth the 100s of million $ per day?

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by bentcorner »

DoctorOW wrote: post #69
ars wrote: post #18

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From the article you linked: > For one, the new report was based on data only through November, before the U.S. booster campaign really took off. It also looked at data during the Delta wave and does not account for the surging Omicron variant. The study doesn't take other variants into account. This is important because later findings reflect the unvaccinated would have immunity from just the one variant and not all…

Source data from that article: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7104e1-H.pdf

That article is misleading, because it's comparing hazard rates of people who have had COVID before and were unvaccinated versus people who didn't have COVID before and were vaccinated. Best case scenario are people who are vaccinated and had COVID. Worst off are people are not vaccinated and hadn't had COVID.

I've seen this claim elsewhere and it's frustrating because people just read the headline and regurgitate this nonsense. So much for "doing your own research".

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Post by monkeybutton »

echelon wrote: post #100
peeters wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of " insurrection " makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speec…

Why is it a far left position to call out what protest leaders stated in their memorandum of understanding?

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Post by hammock »

peeters wrote: post #110
echelon wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of " insurrection " makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense. It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speec…

You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.

Play that out. How will it happen?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

dahfizz wrote: post #64
toomuchtodo wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t endorse illegal activities, ever, full stop. I speak only of the results. Don’t speak or support what you’d be embarrassed to see successfully attributed to you on the front page of a newspaper. Everyone’s opsec streak runs out eventually, and anonymity should have bounds once you’re influencing the public sphere (politics, in this case). (all of my political donations are public in FEC filings, even those I’…

Do you also support exposing homosexuals who don't want to come out? People have a right to privacy. Stealing private information is the opposite of freedom.

Only in the case where the subject in question is pushing public policy to hurt homosexuals while secretly being one themselves. Public figures are held to a higher standard of accountability, and a loss of some privacy is expected depending on how far your life dips into public policy and influence. The purpose in this case would be to expose the malicious hypocrisy.

You’re Average Joe or Jane? Of course not, not under any circumstances. Their bedroom is their business only. I can’t stress this enough.

> People have a right to privacy. Stealing private information is the opposite of freedom.

Higher level, to demand anonymity when pushing resourced ($$$) speech in a democracy is attempting to subvert the political system while avoiding recourse for bad faith intent and/or actions (my observations from a systems analyst perspective).

Nuance and absolutism are incompatible.

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Post by bawolff »

olivermarks wrote: post #60
bawolff wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The protest is super unpopular in canada. It could just as easily be a random canadian citizen who is pissed about the protest and wants to prove that the protest is not grass roots but foreign meddling.

Unpopular with wealthier people who are inconvenienced, very popular amongst what the media like to call 'populists' - ie the people who deliver the rich people's chattels

Wealthy people are fine. They are mostly screwing over the working class.

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Post by [deleted] »

azangru wrote: post #78
DFHippie wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also dark that people respond to being governed by someone they didn't vote for by blockading their country's economy. And that this action is funded by people in other countries who never had a vote in the first place.

> And that this action is funded by people in other countries who never had a vote in the first place. I am somewhat puzzled by this take. Consider how much people donate to people in other countries that they've never met and in which they've never voted. Consider how much people donate to content creators that they want to support (youtube, substack, etc.). Consider that there are currently several fundraisers on G…

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by tagoregrtst »

peeters wrote: post #80
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

Some of us remember the “mostly peaceful” characterization by CNN of the protests in Kenosha.

We also remember the blockade of the rail in Canada.

We’re also not impressed by the pleas by inconvenienced government bureaucrats who couldn't be bothered to investigate the arson of 40 places of worship in Canada.

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