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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by purple_ferret »

busterarm wrote: post #22

I guess that's what counts as hacktivism these days. Doxxing working class people and their supporters. It's nice to see the left and right's true colors here and how easily they pulled back the veil of opposition to reveal their true contempt for the lower classes and the real class war underpinning everything. These last two years, I have seen so much scary authoritarianism from well-meaning people using their own…

Yes, it's very idealistic to think 'hacktivists' would take the upper ground here in what is already a very dirty fight.

I mean you have 61% of donors not even being Canadians. They're funding a movement that shut down a major commerce corridor into the US, directly affecting the US economy.

To say this is about the 'working class' is naive. I mean you think Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, was tweeting support of it because he loves the working class?

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by hammock »

BoorishBears wrote: post #53
busterarm wrote: post #22

I guess that's what counts as hacktivism these days. Doxxing working class people and their supporters. It's nice to see the left and right's true colors here and how easily they pulled back the veil of opposition to reveal their true contempt for the lower classes and the real class war underpinning everything. These last two years, I have seen so much scary authoritarianism from well-meaning people using their own…

Being objective here: - 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated, so why are you using working class as a substitute for protestor, then using that to call this class warfare? - Don't you think working class people will care most about this list? The people with the most time to scour lists and make angry tweets probably most likely aren't UHNW individuals... - Don't you see the irony is claiming authoritariani…

I'm pretty sure OP is explicitly NOT assigning/painting left and right, but rather saying with the "pulled back the veil of opposition" comment that left vs right is an illusion/artifice, and the struggle is actually upper vs lower class.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by gruez »

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

> As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish.

Find targets to cancel. ie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CE...

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by adamrezich »

BoorishBears wrote: post #53
busterarm wrote: post #22

I guess that's what counts as hacktivism these days. Doxxing working class people and their supporters. It's nice to see the left and right's true colors here and how easily they pulled back the veil of opposition to reveal their true contempt for the lower classes and the real class war underpinning everything. These last two years, I have seen so much scary authoritarianism from well-meaning people using their own…

Being objective here: - 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated, so why are you using working class as a substitute for protestor, then using that to call this class warfare? - Don't you think working class people will care most about this list? The people with the most time to scour lists and make angry tweets probably most likely aren't UHNW individuals... - Don't you see the irony is claiming authoritariani…

> 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated

is this actually true, or is this just an extrapolation of "90% of Canadians are vaccinated"?

regardless, it's not as though only 10% of truckers are involved in this protest...

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by abernard1 »

czzr wrote: post #65
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?

Because I'm sympathetic to their plight.

I'm a class traitor frankly. My whole family works in jobs like this that have been impacted. One of my old co-founders was a 24 big-rig truck mechanic and his dad is being put out of business by the California CARB restrictions.

But aside from the specifics, I find it odd that people are decrying cross-national donations of money to causes. Were similar complaints made about CA->US donations in 2020? How about national disasters? I don't need a reason to give charitably to causes I care about in the world, and a supposedly cosmopolitan populace wondering about transnational giving seems contradictory to me.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by rwj »

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

I don't mind if it inconvenience the government, but they have severely impacted residential neighbourhoods as well. Others in the movement have blocked commercial traffic across the border, putting people jobs at risk.

Ironically, I think these higher pressure activities will back fire. They could probably find a lot of support for easing restrictions, but destroying people's homes and jobs is not going to make or keep friends.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by nverno »

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

It's not just a run of the mill worker's strike, though, it's tactically ingenious- they were able to put huge pressure on people very quickly without ever needing to get violent or aggressive. Good for them.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by bawolff »

peripote wrote: post #46
Bud wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notorious? And the best source for this is a 52-year-old article from a student newspaper in the US, with no listed author or sourcing? The linked article also reveals that the separatists in question were kidnapping multiple people at the time. This seems like ample reason to arrest a bunch of them.

The question isn't about arresting them. Nobody disagrees that the FLQ activists who committed violence should have been arrested. They even murdered a provincial cabinet minister. What is disputed is whether putting the entire country under martial law, canceling all civil liberties and sending the army into the streets, as Trudeau did, was an appropriate response. It's impossible to discuss this objectively at the…

> sending the army into the streets, as Trudeau did, was an appropriate response.

the army part was the premier of quebec not trudeau. Policing is a provincial responsibility. Having the armty come in was a provincial call that was unrelated to the war measures act.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by echelon »

peeters wrote: post #80
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

> We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada.

I'm liberal, but the far left jumping to call protests an act of "insurrection" makes me want to warn you that this is an extreme characterization that will only further polarize us. We have to stop this nonsense.

It's like when those on the far left call for an end of free speech. The pendulum has swung completely for these folks. It's not a good idea to perpetuate or associate with these leanings.

Protests on both sides, while kept nonviolent, are a good and healthy mechanism to diffuse pent up anger, air grievances, and open new channels of dialogue.

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