Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack • Hacker News Board

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by gpm » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:14 PM UTC

hammock wrote: post #58

jeromegv wrote: post #42

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Foreign support to this movement is not exactly a secret. They were waiving Trump flags, confederate flags and lots of MAGA signs were seen among the protesters. Also the movement has been publicized on Fox News and by famous right-wing people in the US, that's just normal that it would eventually lead to a lot of people in the US deciding to start donating. The simplest explanation is more likely than the conspiracy…

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Because they're all symbols of foreign political figures/deceased foreign governments?

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by jjulius » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:14 PM UTC

czzr wrote: post #65

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

You live in Austin and donated to support protests in Canada? I’m curious about that - why are you actively getting involved in another country?

Not OP (and this shouldn't be considered an endorsement of their donation/views), but it's similar to how someone in Nantucket might've donated to groups protesting police in Minneapolis in summer 2020. It's a cause you believe in and you want those fighting for it to keep going, and you may also want that fight to influence others local to you to get more vocal.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by hourislate » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:14 PM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #26

olivermarks wrote: post #6

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The police handled these protesters with kid gloves compared to how they treat pipeline protesters, all under Trudeau junior.

B.S.

The Government did nothing when the Natives blocked the rail links causing harm to CN/CP and Canadians across the country. Your attempt to obfuscate the facts makes you unqualified to comment and you should refrain from participating in this conversation.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by jeromegv » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

As you are from Austin, you clearly have no idea that this is just more than bureaucrats but actual people live there. Many and have had to move out of their house as they couldn't sleep. This is honking all nights but also intimidating business owners, people walking by with a mask, verbal harassment, etc. This is all documented.

The people in those protests are also anti-vaxers, while 90% of the population is vaccinated, so they don't represent the working class. The Qanon "Queen of Canada" and all their crazies are there, harassing health care workers. This is very much the 1% of crazies, the working class is extremely irritated by having their health care workers being harassed.

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Post by amscanne » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

bawolff wrote: post #51

negzero7 wrote: post #15

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The protest is super unpopular in canada. It could just as easily be a random canadian citizen who is pissed about the protest and wants to prove that the protest is not grass roots but foreign meddling.

The polls I've seen had ~half of Canadians sympathetic to the protests [1], and about 20% strongly supporting. It's completely true that it could be one highly motivated individual, but that has nothing to do with your first assertion (which is a mixed truth at best). I think that the government's claim (echoed by many media outlets) that this is purely a fringe movement has added fuel to the fire.

[1] https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy...

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Post by mrtesthah » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

olivermarks wrote: post #60

bawolff wrote: post #51

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The protest is super unpopular in canada. It could just as easily be a random canadian citizen who is pissed about the protest and wants to prove that the protest is not grass roots but foreign meddling.

Unpopular with wealthier people who are inconvenienced, very popular amongst what the media like to call 'populists' - ie the people who deliver the rich people's chattels

"The People are on our side!" "Everyone against us is against The People!"

Hmm, where I have heard that rhetoric before...

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Post by Bud » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

jeromegv wrote: post #27

Bud wrote: post #11

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Notorious? And the best source for this is a 52-year-old article from a student newspaper in the US, with no listed author or sourcing? The linked article also reveals that the separatists in question were kidnapping multiple people at the time. This seems like ample reason to arrest a bunch of them.

I mean if you are Canadian or Québécois, there is no denying that Trudeau father is famous for having invoqued martial law in Quebec. This is something everyone from Quebec knows and the merit of this measure has been debated and discussed for decades in various movies, books, news articles. I don't know why you are debating the source, this seems irrelevant.

I'm not Canadian and the reason I asked for a better source is not at all irrelevant. Those who are not Canadian might want a higher-quality source to learn about the topic in question. It is, obviously completely irrelevant whether "everyone in Quebec knows" this. Most users here, to put it rather mildly, are not from Quebec.

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Post by soupbowl » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

DFHippie wrote: post #12

olivermarks wrote: post #6

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It's also dark that people respond to being governed by someone they didn't vote for by blockading their country's economy. And that this action is funded by people in other countries who never had a vote in the first place.

Hello,

I am a Canadian and my government has allowed someone we did not vote in to shutdown our economy and restrict me. If the government can do that, we the citizens can do it.

My province has increased covid rules and keeps pushing opening up for vaccinated down the road. While everywhere else is easing off. We can't even go to a gym to work out and our hospitals are way under normal capacity.

I am not pro outsiders funding our citizens to do these things but at this point I'll take the help I can get.

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Post by gxt » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #11

olivermarks wrote: post #6

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Notorious? And the best source for this is a 52-year-old article from a student newspaper in the US, with no listed author or sourcing? The linked article also reveals that the separatists in question were kidnapping multiple people at the time. This seems like ample reason to arrest a bunch of them.

I am a Quebecker and yes he is notorious for that. Here's a 51 year old video from CBC, Canada's state media. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1241195075951

"The state must use every means at its disposal" ... "Just watch me"

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by good8675309 » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 5:16 PM UTC

abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

Yeah, well the establishment journalists are doing everything they can to cover for Trudeau. Meanwhile if you really want to be informed you can find tons of livestreams on Youtube from every angle of the protest in Ottawa, 1988 Watchman is good. I've been watching for over a week now and I've seen people helping and feeding each other. Filling the food banks, food banks are declining food donations now. Cleaning the streets. People dancing and singing, kids playing hockey in the streets. It's a big festival and a lot of people are showing up to celebrate and come together. It's inspiring in a time when people are so divided to see joyful people having fun.