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Deliberate practice can bring that number way down.
That's the number for deliberate practice. In other words, every hour of deliberate practice brings the number down exactly one hour.
No.
This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
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Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the number for deliberate practice. In other words, every hour of deliberate practice brings the number down exactly one hour.
No.
Your mastery of language to articulate your point has brought me to a new level of understanding.
My reply to you is "yes." Additionally, I'd like to point out that indeed every hour of deliberate practice does reduce the amount suggested by one hour. Unless you have mastered manipulation of space-time, of course.
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the number for deliberate practice. In other words, every hour of deliberate practice brings the number down exactly one hour.
No.
Comments like these make me feel that this place is turning into Reddit as it becomes more popular. It's sad.
Back on topic, the ten thousand hours is supposed to be deliberate practice to achieve mastery. One good source for this is Malcolm Gladwell's book, Outliers.
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#74someone should do the same with programming
I suppose if you work full-time as a developer, you could figure out how many days you've worked and multiply it by the typical number of hours you program per day.
However, part of this is you need to deliberately trying to get better, so that should be taken into account. Also your knowledge of the overall system architecture, if you are working on a complicated project such as an OS, can be as important as your coding ability to get things done.
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#75Its great to see this person's progression! He is obviously very talented and has a real gift. I went through a similar progression as a child. My mother worked as an art teacher at the local YMCA while I was growing up. After school each day I would take the bus to the Y and sit in on her art classes. I became a pretty proficient artist -- technically speaking anyway -- but I never really developed into what I would…
Being not gifted are an excuse to not do something. MindCandyMan was not good at the beginning, but he stick with it. I've seen him struggle, but never loosing is focus : draw. He's doing the hard work everyday. He has the courage to do it.
I didn't mean to give an excuse not to try. What I didn't articulate is that I got to a point (after many years) where I recognized my limitations. My brother and I would draw the same subject and mine would be an accurate representation (and certainly nothing to be ashamed of) but my brothers would always carry an interesting twist to his.
I don't have that same vision and that's OK. I don't have the physical size to be a football linebacker either. Not everyone can be Picasso but that isn't an excuse for not trying.
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#76Its great to see this person's progression! He is obviously very talented and has a real gift. I went through a similar progression as a child. My mother worked as an art teacher at the local YMCA while I was growing up. After school each day I would take the bus to the Y and sit in on her art classes. I became a pretty proficient artist -- technically speaking anyway -- but I never really developed into what I would…
Even at the start, he was drawing significantly better than I can--but he actually did put in the 10,000 hours of focused practice (with feedback from a forum-full of artists to focus him) so I don't think you can attribute it all to native talent.
It certainly isn't all native talent. He does have a gift though, but, as with all gifts, you need to develop it.
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#77The site seems to be under a lot of load. In case anyone (like me) is having trouble viewing the images, I wrote a quick script to scrape the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/paintings.tar The naming format is "page_X_image_X.jpg". EDIT: Here's a video slideshow of the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/Paintings.mov http://vimeo.com/29510470
Nice work! It would be even cooler if you added a timeline. :) (That or just simple text saying 1st year etc..)
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Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#78How is this relevant to HN?
Wow, talk about missing the point...
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#79The site seems to be under a lot of load. In case anyone (like me) is having trouble viewing the images, I wrote a quick script to scrape the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/paintings.tar The naming format is "page_X_image_X.jpg". EDIT: Here's a video slideshow of the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/Paintings.mov http://vimeo.com/29510470
Just out of plain curiosity, could I please see the scraping script?
Definitely. Here's the script:
http://markerdmann.com/blog/2011/09/24/image-scraping-exampl...
Just let me know if there's anything I need to clarify.
Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years
#80The site seems to be under a lot of load. In case anyone (like me) is having trouble viewing the images, I wrote a quick script to scrape the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/paintings.tar The naming format is "page_X_image_X.jpg". EDIT: Here's a video slideshow of the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/Paintings.mov http://vimeo.com/29510470
This video illustrates his progress much better then the original thread. Could you do the same thing for this guy: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114449
Sure. I'm running out the door, but I'll take a look this evening and post an update here.