This is a great article that explains markets (not just the stock market really) in an easy to understand way. The one thing I believe people should know about the stock market is: There are people with more capital, time, and knowledge than you who will consistently beat you. Picking individual investments is mostly a sucker's game. Buying tech stocks and/or crypto in the last couple of years has been a consistent e…
What to know about the stock market (2007)
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This is such a bad advice. Buying an index is what they want you to do. They want you to buy and hold until you retire. Do you not see the problem with that logic?
Who is “they”?
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People keep telling me this, but I keep beating the market. It's been 20 years or so of applying very basic reasoning and getting ahead. 1. Commodities are bad long term bets because technology gets better. I remember people talking my ear off about peak oil and then the US turned into a net-exporter. Short term inelasticity, yes can sky rocket prices; but long term prices go down. 2. Physics based thinking. I knew e…
I've invested in GM and avoided investing in Tesla. Mostly just because I understand GM, their business and financials and stock price history makes sense to me. I do not understand the valuations on Tesla, and hadn't even long before COVID and the most recent run-up in value. Clearly I've missed out on massive earnings if I had invested in Tesla instead of GM (although GM's done decently lately). To me looking at th…
I'm not currently invested in automotive. Just drive by some dealerships, empty lots. Not because they are selling out but because business is bad. There will be a work from home permanence, the inflation reality will destroy the automotive industry. The only thing keeping them barely afloat is low interest rates.
Then you also have the market disruptor of Tesla. Ford and GM obviously have some fantastic products coming and even some already here. EV silverado and hummer are amazing. Mach-E and EV f150 are possibly the best.
EV cars is a new generation of vehicle and will harm the existing auto industry. Ford and GM are obviously going to survive no problem. They arent worth a trillion $ because they are behind but have significant costs upcoming. GM and Ford's upcoming profitability is going to be quite poor.
Stellantis looks like they are too far behind. Ram revolution silouette looks good but if the Chevy Bolt proves anything... building a good battery has many hurdles. Stellantis has nothing coming soon and may just die.
>To me looking at the stock pricing, Tesla looks like a software company where tremendous growth has been occurring and is expected to continue for some time. To some extent they are a software company, but that software so far has seemed to me to require quite an expensive set of hardware to be sold with it in order to get the software and continuing monthly/yearly/feature revenues sales. This has worked for Apple, so it's not unprecedented, but it'll be interesting to watch how long it can last.
Tesla's first disruption is that after the car leaves the lot. It continues to get better. The traditional auto industry, you leave the lot and your car will be that or worse forever.
The second big disruption is efficiency. AC motors have regen, their motors are ~90% efficient. This creates the new generation of car. A model 3 performance(inexpensive sedan) has a 0-60 of 3.2 seconds. That's faster than all production Corvettes. Faster than a Hellcat. As fast as a Mclaren F1 from back in the day. About as fast as a Nissan GTR or Porsche 911. All the while not being annoying loud, far more practicality, and no emissions.
The most recently disruption... Tesla is now the fastest car with the plaid edition. 0-60 of 2 seconds model s plaid means it's faster than the Demon. Faster than all hyper cars. Yet at significantly cheaper price point. The roadster coming with compressed air to make it faster? Ridiculous.
By the time Ford/GM really get going, Tesla will not have sat around. They will have moved forward.
This is why Tesla has a ridiculous valuation. They effectively are the only competitor in the auto industry for the next several years.
Re: What to know about the stock market (2007)
#244This is a great article that explains markets (not just the stock market really) in an easy to understand way. The one thing I believe people should know about the stock market is: There are people with more capital, time, and knowledge than you who will consistently beat you. Picking individual investments is mostly a sucker's game. Buying tech stocks and/or crypto in the last couple of years has been a consistent e…
This is awful advice and people keep repeating it. Taking on risk over the last few decades has paid off in spades.
>Taking on risk over the last few decades has paid off in spades.
There's two types of risk here: risk that is compensated by higher returns (eg. buying stocks rather than bonds) and risk that isn't compensated by higher returns (eg. buying OTM options rather than stocks). It's not really clear that higher than expected returns in the past decade or so for "tech stocks and/or crypto", mean that they have higher risk-adjusted returns in the next decade.
Re: What to know about the stock market (2007)
#245This is a great article that explains markets (not just the stock market really) in an easy to understand way. The one thing I believe people should know about the stock market is: There are people with more capital, time, and knowledge than you who will consistently beat you. Picking individual investments is mostly a sucker's game. Buying tech stocks and/or crypto in the last couple of years has been a consistent e…
People keep telling me this, but I keep beating the market. It's been 20 years or so of applying very basic reasoning and getting ahead. 1. Commodities are bad long term bets because technology gets better. I remember people talking my ear off about peak oil and then the US turned into a net-exporter. Short term inelasticity, yes can sky rocket prices; but long term prices go down. 2. Physics based thinking. I knew e…
However, I am sure there are many people who have lost money (or made much less) with reasonings that may be at least as sound as this one.
Re: What to know about the stock market (2007)
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
People keep telling me this, but I keep beating the market. It's been 20 years or so of applying very basic reasoning and getting ahead. 1. Commodities are bad long term bets because technology gets better. I remember people talking my ear off about peak oil and then the US turned into a net-exporter. Short term inelasticity, yes can sky rocket prices; but long term prices go down. 2. Physics based thinking. I knew e…
When I was completely new to investing I put my money into AAPL, TSLA, AMD and TSM based on my experiences with them. That portfolio would have done extremely well had I stuck with it. I think the dogmatic "nobody can beat the markets" is hurting people who then think they may as well give up, and patently not true when you look at traders who beat the market year in and year out, and minimize their losses when they…
If "beat the market" means that you can predict exactly if and when Russia invades Ukraine, then the answer is NO, you cannot know if some drunk soldier is going to accidently shoot off a missile and start a war.
On the other hand, if "beat the market" means that you invest in companies with solid fundamentals and solid management in areas of the economy that are not shrinking at prices that are historically low, then yes you can beat the market in the long term. Buffet and Munger are obvious examples of this.
If "beat the market" means buy everything except NKLA, because that company has obviously been a scam for over a year, then yes "beating the market" is very easy.
Re: What to know about the stock market (2007)
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This is awful advice and people keep repeating it. Taking on risk over the last few decades has paid off in spades.
>>So my advice to anyone who already got rich from their investments in the last couple of years: Congratulations! Now take that money, invest it in the most boring thing possible, and enjoy life. >Taking on risk over the last few decades has paid off in spades. There's two types of risk here: risk that is compensated by higher returns (eg. buying stocks rather than bonds) and risk that isn't compensated by higher re…
Re: What to know about the stock market (2007)
#248This article explains what the stock market pretends to be. This book explains what the stock market actually is: https://www.amazon.com/Flash-Boys-Wall-Street-Revolt/dp/0393... It's much less friendly than it seems and only "efficient" for a select few.
- Michael Lewis really only got one side of the story - that of Brad Katsuyama, who had a vested interest in casting HFT players in a bad light to promote his own business - building the new exchange IEX.
- Brad also blamed HFTs for systems at RBC failing to make massive trades like they used to. There was nothing nefarious here - RBC had just fallen behind the time in technology, like trying to send a Fax in a world where everyone already uses Email. If Brad, or RBC, or RBC software engineers picked up the phone and called any of the exchanges, they would probably gladly update them on the industry and save them all the work of re-discovering it themselves.
- The claims about front-running are completely false. Front running would mean that a market maker somehow knows someone's orders at two different exchanges and somehow is able to "get in front of the line" or even know that those orders belong to the same person. This would mean the exchanges leak information or allow certain users "ahead of the queue". None of this is true. What Michael Lewis called front-running, was HFT firms reducing their risk on other exchanges when they would get traded against on one exchange. They did this without any knowledge that Brad Katsuyama was on the other end, or that he was just late trying to make the same trade at another exchange at a later time. There are no guarantees that you can make the same trade at different exchanges - the same rules apply to everybody.
- Unsurprisingly, IEX as an exchange is no different from others, in that they need market makers (a.k.a. HFTs) to provide liquidity on their exchange. I wrote the code for the FIX gateways to connect our firm to IEX, and it was all business as usual.
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My stock advice for any rookie has always been the same: - Buy S&P ETFs, most preferably by Vanguard, because they are a non-profit and thus have very low fees - If you have a large sum of cash, go all-in immediately, don't wait for the perfect time - Now, just wait, ideally 10+ years, before looking into your account again
Historically speaking, I think this has been one of the best things an average person could do within the context of a stable, safe, free, and productive society, but I don't think this kind of generic advice is really persuasive in the different and more turbulent world that exists right now. Additionally, because of many societal conditions, right now many people think they need to hit on a moonshot to have a good…
That said, most of current CPI "inflation" is not economy wide price increases, but comes from 1) car prices, because car manufacturers massively messed up and production is way down for the past two years, and 2) energy, which is from several global market issues. There's also housing, which is not in CPI, but that's also easily attributable to underproduction of housing since 2008 (and probably even for decades before that, honesty).
We are actually in incredibly good economic times, especially considering the massive destruction that the pandemic has wrought, and in the US, the lowered number of workers due to years of reducing immigration. I am glad people are not overly exuberant, but I with they were focused on the things that mattered more.