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A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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I have a similar system, not for friends, but for acquaintances, business connections etc. I have a google sheet and a google script, the script runs once per day and checks the last time I emailed them or they emailed me. If it’s too long ago it adds a reminder to my calendar for that day. It’s simple and means I don’t have to remember to use the system.

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What's the point of networking. I used to not care for decades, now I wish I'd spent more time and effort on it.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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post #9

Actually this is sad

As I understand this, it shouldn't be primarily for close friends, but for other people. For example, some journalist wrote a very interesting article, so I sent him an email, he answered, maybe we exchanged one more email, and that was it. Now with this system I would get a reminder 6 months later to reach him again. Why not? It can develop into online friendship or something good can happen out of it. If I don't do it, just nothing happens with that person anymore. And if I tell myself that I don't need to contact this journalist anymore, then ok, I will not put him into the system. Still, I would be curious to learn how many people he has in his system.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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There seems to be a non-fringe sentiment that "this is pretending to care" or "you can't automate friendship", etc. I see where it's coming from, and I agree to some extent - I wouldn't want to be contacted "for the sake of it". Feeling like it's a chore for the other person that they have to get through, in the hopes of some (maybe financial?) reward at the end of it. However, I think this approach warrants some def…

> but because I genuinely have a hard time finding enough time for all the things that matter in life. Mate. It takes seconds to send a simple text message/mail "Hey, how're you doing?" while sitting on the toilet. Everyone sits on the toilet, quite regularly.

But this doesn't work for contacts I do not reach regularly... I just forget about them when I don't reach them at all for some longer time.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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I’m a bit surprised by the negative reactions here. I don’t think the post is saying “I use a tool to remind me to talk to my spouse/close/friends/family” so much as “having weak social connections is more useful for both sides than not having them at all and I have a tool to help me do the work of maintaining them”. Two things which I think are acceptable and similar are:

1. Contacts who mostly just exchange Christmas cards (but what a bad way of staying in touch! One year my dad decided he was sick of Christmas cards and he would just call his acquaintances and talk to them instead, which seemed a better way to do things)

2. Maintaining business relationships. E.g. maybe you meet someone from some other company at a conference and then email a bit and decide there isn’t some business you currently want to do with them (eg their product is unsuitable) but you may still want to keep in touch in case they offer something new or may remember you and mention your services to someone else or vice versa. I don’t think people would be so upset to hear that someone they worked with had some reminder system to help maintain such relationships.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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post #7

Let me just point that the messages must be genuine and thoughtful. It is written in the article, but it seems that some people failed to notice it and accuse the author of objectivization and hypocrisy.

They would be genuine and thoughtful if the system didn't rely on previously prepared notes such as "He publishes incredible posts on his blog". This system is more akin to how a politician or salesperson manages personal interaction for maximum effect — there's a lof of method but little sincerity involved. I'm not saying the system isn't useful to some degree, but this is a bit much for me.

The prepared notes are for people of interest and not someone considered a contact. The goal is not to extract something, but to maintain and expand.

Again, from the article:

> Most importantly, I always send the kind of messages I’d like to receive. They’re short, genuine, and (ideally) helpful. I never try to sell anything and there’s no agenda other than to keep in touch.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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Many people have mentioned Monica, which is what I use for this.

I live overseas from loved ones and old friends, meaning there are few natural cues to encourage communication. Without very regular chats my memory doesn't let me be as in context with the major things happening in their lives as I need to be to have meaningful conversations with them. Monica helps with both of these things.

Getting reminders only really helps if the interactions themselves are also rewarding when you do them. If, say, calling an elderly family member feels more like a chore, it's easy to end up skipping the reminders more than you'd like.

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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How do you manage to lose touch with friends? Did you not miss them? If you did, why didn't you contact them? If you didn't, why do you care? One can not forget about friends, one can only stop caring.

It’s not about forgetting. I don’t forget my friends, but at the same time life happens. Kids, work obligations, relationships. It’s easy to forget to reach out to friends or acquaintances. Easy to underestimate when the last time you made contact. That’s just life.

Agreed. Sometimes life just gets in the way and if something isn't urgent or can be put off for a few days in order to handle the immediate and now it is easy to forgot what isn't right in front of you.

I'm sure most have the best of intentions that they will reach out to friends and keep in touch, but the best laid plans of mice and men...I don't see why having a system to do this so bad?

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

#79

So he's treating people like assets, not friends, and these assets need to be checked on on a regular basis. If there were friends, he'd not need to be reminded of contacting them. He'd miss contacting them. So instead he needs a tool to remind him of that "friend" he needs to contact, because pretending to care is beneficial. One might some day need them. It's incredibly sad that his social life, or rather: the illu…

"if you cared, you'd remember" glad you have this experience, i dont think all of us do. i care deeply but seem to forget people exist and that makes me sad and dislike myself. i wish i could just remember. id still have so many friends if i did.

Well, then ... why did you forget, when you (believe you've) actually cared?

Re: A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds of people

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but because I genuinely have a hard time finding enough time for all the things that matter in life. Mate. It takes seconds to send a simple text message/mail "Hey, how're you doing?" while sitting on the toilet. Everyone sits on the toilet, quite regularly.

But this doesn't work for contacts I do not reach regularly... I just forget about them when I don't reach them at all for some longer time.

That’s good! It means people who aren’t actually part of your busy life will get pruned out, and you’ll be left with more time to deal with people who actually matter.
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