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This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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Interestingly, he's pretty close to (but still under) the ten year mark for getting mastery that Peter Norvig wrote about in an essay about mastering programming. ( http://norvig.com/21-days.html ). (This was before the rule changed to 10,000 hours.) It could be interesting for someone more knowledgable about art to indicate at what point he hit 'mastery' (assuming that has already happened) and to then estimate how…

From my standpoint looking at his current work, he's definitely at mastery.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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post #37

I've started something similar 1.5 years ago, but with drawing, as painting is not really my thing (maybe it will). It is kind of my concept that to learn any skill/art/job/whatever, you have to want it really really hard, copy/copy/copy/copy the masters, and not judge yourself at all while doing it. I think that's one of the big reasons that kids learn so fast, they want it, they have no apprehension whatsoever abou…

I personally didn't take formal training until several years into my drawing and even then it's wasn't great training (High school art class).

Although I'm sure it helps I personally have always found that I learn far more by just spending more time bashing my head against the wall trying to do it myself. The trick is to just do it a lot and don't ever give up. Eventually it works.

I like your new stuff, interesting style.

I agree wholeheartedly that to learn a skill and do it well you have to really want it and spend a lot of time doing it.

I really wanted to be an artist when I was 8 through about 16. I stopped drawing cold turkey and didn't keep anything I drew but I did end up drawing two things in the last twelve years (!). The lessons I took from learning how to draw were invaluable though. You can learn anything you want as long as you a) really want it; and b) bash your head against the wall long enough to achieve it.

Here are the two drawings I mentioned: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.17270830489.47657.6...

After not picking up a pencil for half a decade for the first one I was fairly happy with the result.

Good luck on your journey.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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post #41

Interestingly, he's pretty close to (but still under) the ten year mark for getting mastery that Peter Norvig wrote about in an essay about mastering programming. ( http://norvig.com/21-days.html ). (This was before the rule changed to 10,000 hours.) It could be interesting for someone more knowledgable about art to indicate at what point he hit 'mastery' (assuming that has already happened) and to then estimate how…

From my standpoint looking at his current work, he's definitely at mastery.

Maybe compared to your personal skills, but do you really think he is a master painter now? Not to criticize his work in any way, but I was always under the impression mastering a fine art was essentially a life's work.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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This is fascinating. I think a really interesting project for someone (other than me) would be to collect each image, and have a whole bunch of people rate each one on a subjective scale from, let's say, 1 to 100. Then, draw a scatter plot of the ratings against time. I wonder what curves might show up? I also wonder whether there are any other datasets that might be used to determine if there's any common thread between learning processes like this.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

#46
He mentioned getting a Wacom Intuos tablet. I've been considering getting one, or maybe this new device:

http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/30/wacom-introduces-inkling-table...

This video turned me on to the Wacom:

http://www.ctrlpaint.com/home/category/hardware

He discusses tablets at about the 2m mark.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

#47
I've been looking for that thread for a long time. I remember seeing it a few years ago when I was getting into drawing myself. But I sort of got lost along the way. Ended up spending more time on coding than drawing. I guess one can only focus on so much. But it's still definitely something I want to get into.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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post #18

This reminds me a lot of Penny Arcade, I started reading it 10 years ago for the video game commentary but I've really enjoyed watching the quality of the writing and comics improve to such a world class level over time.

Reading that first year of Penny Arcade is night and day from the material they put out now.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my standpoint looking at his current work, he's definitely at mastery.

Maybe compared to your personal skills, but do you really think he is a master painter now? Not to criticize his work in any way, but I was always under the impression mastering a fine art was essentially a life's work.

You're right. He could be on his way to such a level but definitely has not reached it yet.

Re: This is what happens when one guy practices art every day for nine years

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The site seems to be under a lot of load. In case anyone (like me) is having trouble viewing the images, I wrote a quick script to scrape the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/paintings.tar The naming format is "page_X_image_X.jpg". EDIT: Here's a video slideshow of the images: https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/Paintings.mov http://vimeo.com/29510470

Just out of plain curiosity, could I please see the scraping script?
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