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Re: Are you in a Religious Cult? Take the test

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Post by iJohnDoe »

steeleduncan wrote: post #31
stpe wrote: post #4

> Is your leader the ultimate authority of your group? Yes. Selected by, and sole connection to the mythical group "board". > Does your leader have impressive, made-up names or titles? Yes. "Chief Executive Officer". > As far as your group is concerned, would they say that there is no legitimate reason to leave them? Yes... if ever trying to leave, you are technically bribed with something that you cannot use in stor…

> /S Really? Cults are extreme, and socially undesirable, entities. Companies are less extreme, and arguably socially beneficial, entities. However, both entities are use essentially the same psychological tools of manipulation. I don't think this comment should be seen as facetious so much as an insight on how company structures control employees.

> and arguably socially beneficial

That’s a huge stretch or assumption.

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Post by loudtieblahblah »

guerrilla wrote: post #84
loudtieblahblah wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most anti-woke groups don't instruct their members to not associate outside of the tribe. Hardcore racist groups certainly do though.

> Most anti-woke groups don't instruct their members to not associate outside of the tribe. This isn't what I've observed. I'm sure there are such groups that don't though.

I think there's a difference between moderates and older styled progressives who find the woke to be regressive and conservatives that hate anything seemingly left wing.

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Post by freen »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #90
guerrilla wrote: post #71

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Can you elaborate on what you mean? This was very vague.

This is a complex matter and it's hard to describe adequately in a single comment. In short, the USA has a very specific racial situation: black people had been slaves, and until quite recently (some HN readers may even remember that) there was racial segregation. The consequences of that are omnipresent today: black people are, on average, in a worse social situation than white people. One would hope that with time…

Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln were pen pals.

The specifics differ, but the general themes are the same.

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Post by robertlagrant »

freen wrote: post #83
skinkestek wrote: post #79

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- defund the police / acab - inventing pronouns and demand people use them - modern cancel culture - probably a few more

Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial. Pronouns: White people used to call black people terrible things too. Things change. Cancel culture is a moral panic like the satanic panic and strangers with candy kidnapping. https://kottke.org/22/02/cancel-culture-is-a-moral-panic Got more fictions to peddle? GOP introduc…

Police never were the only tool in the toolkit; it's disingenuous to say that they were.

Here's some feedback on how that woke initiative is going: https://joemiller.us/2021/12/chicago-mayor-who-pushed-80m-de...

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Post by robertlagrant »

antris wrote: post #55
skinkestek wrote: post #51

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> White male supremacy is an ideology, not an identity. So where do these have their meetups? Where can I find contemporary writings that explain the superiority of white males?

Depends on where you live. In the US the most obvious mainstream example is republicans upholding white male supremacist laws. Of course they avoid direct language and use dog whistles instead, because saying out loud that you're a white male supremacist isn't a good look anymore. Of course the democrats do it too, but their dog whistles are more subtle and not as obvious.

Dog whistles aren't "white male supremacy".

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Post by robertlagrant »

avs733 wrote: post #6
robertlagrant wrote: post #3

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And wokeism.

Lord…three comments. Three comments in before “don’t be a jerk to people different than you” is called a cult.

At some point I think it's worth considering whether all the massive wealth of evidence that wokeism isn't that has to take effect. I don't think you can forever rely on the idea that "Those people are jerks and I'm not."

If you need to stick with "who's doing something; I want to be like them" rather than "what're the facts and beliefs involved", then surely Bill Maher regularly calling out woke mobs has to count for something.

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Post by robertlagrant »

hughrr wrote: post #5
robertlagrant wrote: post #3

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And wokeism.

Every time I read that word I die a bit inside. One word purposed to discourage and disempower positive social change.

Not at all. No doubt there are true believers who want to make the world a better place, but others also want to do that, but in a different way. That might make them a target for mobs and cancellation, but not for accusations of not wanting positive social change.
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