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Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by ricksunny »

brewdad wrote: post #146
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there's a market in the U.S. for luxury fruits. I always hear about these incredible fruits available abroad that are only available in certain seasons, in certain climates, that decay quickly and travel poorly. Presumably, you could grow god-tier mangoes year-round, right in the city, by simulating the right climate in fancy greenhouses - if you did it right, you wouldn't have an electric bill. If the ma…

I think there really is a market for special fruits but the problems that prevent them from being ubiquitous lead to them being extremely local. In my area, we have a specific type of strawberry that sells out as quickly as they can be harvested. They are unlike any other strawberry available. Super juicy and sweet. Bright red throughout. Extremely perishable and delicate. They are only available for about 3 weeks in…

What is the area with these strawberries? Asking for a friend..

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by walrus01 »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #88
gumby wrote: post #47

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A lot of tropical fruit is uninteresting in the USA: bananas, pineapple, mangoes etc have little flavor and typically one variety is available at most. I sometimes have 50 year old memories in dreams of eating fresh fruit and they are so different in form and flavor I wonder if they are hallucinations. But as you point out, they require a climate unavailable on the continent so have to be harvested unripe and transpo…

I wonder if there's a market in the U.S. for luxury fruits. I always hear about these incredible fruits available abroad that are only available in certain seasons, in certain climates, that decay quickly and travel poorly. Presumably, you could grow god-tier mangoes year-round, right in the city, by simulating the right climate in fancy greenhouses - if you did it right, you wouldn't have an electric bill. If the ma…

Perhaps you could grow some of these (at a very high price) in similar facilities that are used for the famous Japanese cube/square shaped watermelons that are given as gifts.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cube+sh...

If not a market in the USA, maybe in the very luxury food segment in Japan and South Korea, in whatever sort of food retailers occupy the market niche that is even more expensive than Whole Foods.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by Ozzie_osman »

horsawlarway wrote: post #128
ornornor wrote: post #122

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I’ve wondered a lot about that as well and I think this is not only the product of picking unripe fruits so that they can be harvested sooner and not go bad in transit, but also because of the hybridization of crops. There are companies working very hard at developing new variants of fruits and vegetables that grow faster, are less susceptible to pests, don’t get damaged as much in transit, look like what consumers e…

Not really even a hypothesis. Farmers select for traits that increase profit. Since most markets don't let customers actually taste the product, they aren't choosing to buy it on that quality, and no one in the commercial space is trying to optimize it. Instead customers are buying fruit that LOOKS good - big, bright, colorful, blemish-free (survives transport without damage). So farmers plant fruits that will look g…

I learned that baby carrots were not actually "baby" (small carrots) when I was I my 20s, after consuming them for years.

Baby carrots are carved from disfigured (but otherwise edible) carrots, because otherwise most people won't buy disfigured carrots.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by agar »

wyclif wrote: post #96
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there's a market in the U.S. for luxury fruits. I always hear about these incredible fruits available abroad that are only available in certain seasons, in certain climates, that decay quickly and travel poorly. Presumably, you could grow god-tier mangoes year-round, right in the city, by simulating the right climate in fancy greenhouses - if you did it right, you wouldn't have an electric bill. If the ma…

There is, check out Harry & David: https://www.harryanddavid.com/h/fruit-gift

We've received Harry & David gifts in the past and - if you're expecting exotic fruits - you'll be very disappointed. The presentation is beautiful, but getting 5 under-ripe pears wrapped in gold foil does not seem worth the $50 (including shipping) cost.

Most of their fruit really seems just slightly above grocery store quality (though I do live in California, so our fruit is good). The varieties may sound special, but they're often just a branded version of a common citrus, apple, or pear.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by walrus01 »

If one wants to make a time lapse video of this very cheap, you can do it with as little as a raspberry pi zero w ($10, if you can get one?), a 4GB to 8GB sized microsd card for raspbian, a $5 USB-A to microUSB adapter, and any old USB webcam supported by Linux.

When I did this the pi would acquire an image every N minutes, save it with a sequentially timestamped filename into a working directory. Then another system in my house would periodically rsync the contents of the pi's working directory to itself. From there, it's a one line ffmpeg command to turn the series of JPG or PNG files into a video at your choice of time interval/frame rate, resolution and codec.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by carapace »

ornornor wrote: post #129
carapace wrote: post #18

I've been growing plants for the last year and a half or so (covid y'know) and it's really enjoyable and fulfilling, I highly recommend it. Among other things I've got five little macadamia trees, three Torrey pine trees, two carob trees that just sprouted, and a sequoiadendron giganteum seedling about an inch tall. (It's funny to me that the Giant Sequoia seeds are tiny, smaller than a grain of rice, yet the tree gr…

I find it incredibly frustrating. Some plants will die right away so at least it’s a fast failure. But others will be ok for quite a while, several months or even a year or two. And then they’ll start yellowing, losing leaves, whatever, and eventually die. Even plants that are supposedly hardy, like ivy. I absolutely hate growing plants, and it actually makes me angry to see them fail. Even though I love an interior…

I'm not an expert but to me this suggests at least two possibilities:

1) Were you feeding them at all? Maybe they were just running out of nutrients.

2) Something environmental in your area, bad water or radon or something.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

wyclif wrote: post #97
hedora wrote: post #89

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Bananas went (commercially) extinct decades ago. The things sold in stores today are a different fruit.

You can still get the smaller, wilder variety in other places in the world. For instance, the Philippines.

Every SE Asian country will have a few types of bananas available locally. Even Australia is jumping on the band wagon and I can get a couple more varieties now. I can even get plantains regularly.

But we’re talking about mangoes and bananas and pineapples and calling those “tropical fruit” when there’s so many fruits in the tropics.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Ozzie_osman wrote: post #34

I grew up in Egypt, my dad is from a town on the Suez Canal called Ismailia, famous for its mangoes. We would wait the whole year for mango season (August/September). As kids, our clothes would all get mango stains. Our parents would make us take our shirts off before we eat them to avoid that. I moved to the US, and I haven't had a good mango here. When friends visit Egypt, I tell them to get mangoes (in season, aro…

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Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by brewdad »

ricksunny wrote: post #151
brewdad wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there really is a market for special fruits but the problems that prevent them from being ubiquitous lead to them being extremely local. In my area, we have a specific type of strawberry that sells out as quickly as they can be harvested. They are unlike any other strawberry available. Super juicy and sweet. Bright red throughout. Extremely perishable and delicate. They are only available for about 3 weeks in…

What is the area with these strawberries? Asking for a friend..

Hood strawberries grown in the Willamette Valley of Oregon.

Re: Growing a mango tree from seed – one year time lapse [video]

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Post by kubafu »

brewdad wrote: post #146
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there's a market in the U.S. for luxury fruits. I always hear about these incredible fruits available abroad that are only available in certain seasons, in certain climates, that decay quickly and travel poorly. Presumably, you could grow god-tier mangoes year-round, right in the city, by simulating the right climate in fancy greenhouses - if you did it right, you wouldn't have an electric bill. If the ma…

I think there really is a market for special fruits but the problems that prevent them from being ubiquitous lead to them being extremely local. In my area, we have a specific type of strawberry that sells out as quickly as they can be harvested. They are unlike any other strawberry available. Super juicy and sweet. Bright red throughout. Extremely perishable and delicate. They are only available for about 3 weeks in…

And do you know what's the variety? Also asking for a friend!
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