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Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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>Chop off a hand if convicted for theft. Actually enforce our laws. That's... not a law anywhere in the US that I'm aware of.

It’s actually not an enforceable law anywhere in the US since that would be cruel and unusual punishment.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

Already happening in SF as we speak. And the remaining stores have super jacked up prices to the point that it's cheaper to order delivery from a store in the suburbs, pay a tip for a driver, and pay them to do the shopping for you (Instacart) than it is to buy locally. It's clear that Prop 47 and the general mentality that property crimes don't matter and prosecuting them is racist has failed.

I'm sure shoplifting is to blame, and not the price of rent and lack of new construction.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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>Chop off a hand if convicted for theft. Actually enforce our laws. That's... not a law anywhere in the US that I'm aware of.

Sounds like a Code of Hammurabi reference.

Make the Bronze Age Great Again.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

Why should my grocery store close because people are stealing things from it? What do I do, just starve?

no please don't starve, you should start stealing food like your neighbors do.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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I'd like anyone who considers more harsh jail punishments to be the solution to consider that the USA has the highest per-capita prison population in the world. Only 1/5 of those prisoners is in there for drug-related crime. Perhaps harsher punishments aren't going to help here.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

Why should my grocery store close because people are stealing things from it? What do I do, just starve?

I mean, if the people running the store can't profitably operate (due to theft or other factors), why should they operate?

Why should the owners of that supermarket go into ruin just to give you another shopping option? Why is it their responsibility to keep you fed at all?

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Why should my grocery store close because people are stealing things from it? What do I do, just starve?

...because they are losing money? stores aren't in business to feed you; they are in business to make money. Would you continue to own and run a store if it lost money for you? Better have deep pockets then.

You’re being downvoted for this, but you are right, and it’s why we have—or ought to have—a vested interest in enforcing our laws.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Uh who could have this seen comming?!? Thing like this start to happen, if the gap between rich and poor becomes bigger and bigger. The next logic step would be just hijack random people.

The vast majority of these people are not stealing out of desperation. This is just the intersection of shitty culture and insufficient enforcement.

>They come in every day, sometimes twice a day, with laundry bags and just load up on stuff,” the Post quoted a store employee saying

We've all seen the videos. When egregious behavior like this goes unpunished and is publicized, there's no shortage of unscrupulous thieves who will line up for an easy score. There is always a subset of the population which only follows laws out of fear of punishment.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Uh who could have this seen comming?!? Thing like this start to happen, if the gap between rich and poor becomes bigger and bigger. The next logic step would be just hijack random people.

so because Jeff Bezo's is rich, I can steal?

No because I'm so poor and nothing to loose. If I had something to loose I wouldn't do stupid things. My life in jail might even better than on the street.
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