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Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

when has capitalism ever fixed crime?

2008 financial crash saw almost no bank executives prosecuted, so from their perspective banking crimes are fixed and not a problem anymore.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

Why should my grocery store close because people are stealing things from it? What do I do, just starve?

...because they are losing money? stores aren't in business to feed you; they are in business to make money. Would you continue to own and run a store if it lost money for you? Better have deep pockets then.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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I agree that the complicit DAs and recent lax attitudes towards crime are probably a root cause, but it's almost too easy to blame "woke" everything.

If everyone woke went away tomorrow, our society would still have many of these problems.

Personally? I think it's just the chickens coming home to roost on the degradation of our society since the 1970s and it's acceleration since the 2008 financial collapse, but it could also be a lack of investment (emotional, personal and financial) in local communities.

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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For me, it's a systems design problem.

How do you design a law enforcement system that (1) doesn't grind down poor and minorities the way the current system does, yet (2) still makes punishment for minor crimes like shoplifting sufficiently swift, sure, and severe to be an effective deterrent?

Liberals tend to say "Let's focus on (1) and ignore (2)," while conservatives say "Let's focus on (2) and ignore (1)."

Is it possible to create a system satisfies both concerns? Or is there some fundamental reason that we can never have both? Do we need to pick exactly one of {(1), (2)} and just accept that we'll be stuck with whatever we decide is the lesser of two evils?

Re: Shoplifting reaches crisis proportions

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post #7

Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.

Absolutely not. There are actually human costs to it. My parents are old (in their 70s), and they are lucky to have a CVS near by where they can walk and get their medicine and basic needs. Pharmacies and grocery stores being forced to close due to unchecked theft inflict pain and major lowering of quality of life to people around the neighborhood, and especially to people that can't just drive to the next store. Als…

I don't know what needs to start happening for society to reach a consensus that we need to address the problems of poverty and inequaliy in income and access to good education
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