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And wokeism.

Lord…three comments. Three comments in before “don’t be a jerk to people different than you” is called a cult.

Every person I know who considers themselves “woke” is pretty regularly jerkish to everyone who they consider to be not woke…so I am not convinced your definition is entirely accurate.

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You laugh but corporations and the woke are just as cultish as some niche "religions"

I agree, but also include groups which make heavy use of the phrase "the woke." Tribalism in general can easily spiral into cultism.

Most anti-woke groups don't instruct their members to not associate outside of the tribe.

Hardcore racist groups certainly do though.

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#83
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Wow, you ran out of gas by point 3 and went with "other stuff". Talk about shameless.

- defund the police / acab - inventing pronouns and demand people use them - modern cancel culture - probably a few more

Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial.

Pronouns: White people used to call black people terrible things too. Things change.

Cancel culture is a moral panic like the satanic panic and strangers with candy kidnapping. https://kottke.org/22/02/cancel-culture-is-a-moral-panic

Got more fictions to peddle? GOP introduced bills to make it legal to run over protestors in your car, illegal to teach about slavery, and consider the violent insurrection of Jan 6th “legitimate political discourse”.

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I agree, but also include groups which make heavy use of the phrase "the woke." Tribalism in general can easily spiral into cultism.

Most anti-woke groups don't instruct their members to not associate outside of the tribe. Hardcore racist groups certainly do though.

> Most anti-woke groups don't instruct their members to not associate outside of the tribe.

This isn't what I've observed. I'm sure there are such groups that don't though.

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#85
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- defund the police / acab - inventing pronouns and demand people use them - modern cancel culture - probably a few more

Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial. Pronouns: White people used to call black people terrible things too. Things change. Cancel culture is a moral panic like the satanic panic and strangers with candy kidnapping. https://kottke.org/22/02/cancel-culture-is-a-moral-panic Got more fictions to peddle? GOP introduc…

> Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial.

Seems quite apparent to me over the last couple years that it is indeed controversial. Perhaps there wouldn't have been protests, riots, etc. if it weren't.

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post #83

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Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial. Pronouns: White people used to call black people terrible things too. Things change. Cancel culture is a moral panic like the satanic panic and strangers with candy kidnapping. https://kottke.org/22/02/cancel-culture-is-a-moral-panic Got more fictions to peddle? GOP introduc…

> Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial. Seems quite apparent to me over the last couple years that it is indeed controversial. Perhaps there wouldn't have been protests, riots, etc. if it weren't.

Maybe controversial is the wrong term. In the age of historical low crime, perhaps we allocate resources elsewhere shouldn’t be a radical take.

That some folks consider it to be speaks more about them than anything else.

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post #85

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> Defund the police: budget allocation. Spend more money on social services so police aren’t the only tool in the govt toolkit. Not controversial. Seems quite apparent to me over the last couple years that it is indeed controversial. Perhaps there wouldn't have been protests, riots, etc. if it weren't.

Maybe controversial is the wrong term. In the age of historical low crime, perhaps we allocate resources elsewhere shouldn’t be a radical take. That some folks consider it to be speaks more about them than anything else.

He means “lied about”. He may not know it but that’s what he means.

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> Is your leader the ultimate authority of your group? Yes. Selected by, and sole connection to the mythical group "board". > Does your leader have impressive, made-up names or titles? Yes. "Chief Executive Officer". > As far as your group is concerned, would they say that there is no legitimate reason to leave them? Yes... if ever trying to leave, you are technically bribed with something that you cannot use in stor…

> /S Really? Cults are extreme, and socially undesirable, entities. Companies are less extreme, and arguably socially beneficial, entities. However, both entities are use essentially the same psychological tools of manipulation. I don't think this comment should be seen as facetious so much as an insight on how company structures control employees.

Corporations and cults are both also undemocratic and do not fit in democratic countries.

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#90

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You have no idea how strange your comment sounds in some countries outside of the USA.

Can you elaborate on what you mean? This was very vague.

This is a complex matter and it's hard to describe adequately in a single comment. In short, the USA has a very specific racial situation: black people had been slaves, and until quite recently (some HN readers may even remember that) there was racial segregation. The consequences of that are omnipresent today: black people are, on average, in a worse social situation than white people. One would hope that with time the situation would get better, but it's not happening at the speed one would hope. Also, for some reason people don't like to mix that much. Black-white marriages are not a norm - and it doesn't look like this is going to change soon. To add insult to injury, the children from mixed couples have another set of challenges: often they are made felt they don't belong to either community. The issue of race does mean a lot in individual and social contexts.

Now imagine you are living in Russia. Over centuries you were a poor peasant, always at the mercy of someone. In the end you believe all your woes will end if you join others in yet another attempt to make things right, you kill the tzar, and soon you realized you just exchanged one tyrant for another. This is going on more or less until today. Nothing here has anything to do with race. It's similar in many other countries. But Americans have the tendency to perceive everything through their own context and project it onto the whole world. It makes no sense.

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