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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by zppln »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #44
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

The issue comes frome people shoehorning Discord as a replacement for forums. Like a subreddit is a nice place for discussion and it's free. Discord is a chat app, not a forum app. It's about real time communication. In popular discords you can often just be ignored and they have to deal with the same stuff asked every single day. If I want to share something cool then I'd rather post it on a forum because you don't…

A subreddit is a horrible place for discussion though.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by nootropicat »

simias wrote: post #26
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by 0x_rs »

I hate the discordification of communities. A lot of them did not survive the modern era and moved en masse there, but the experience is miserable, and they're usually moderated in a manner that doesn't spur discussion ("move to this section for X topic", et cetera, that's just one I see often). Finding content? You have to use some weird bot or the awful search function worthy of a high school assignment website project. Besides, it's also difficult to access it from my recent experience. You can provide a valid email and phone number, validate, and it may still suspend you for "violating ToS" (?) immediately after signing up. I don't think it's suited for a lot of things that end up on there, that shouldn't really be in IM-form, but maybe it's just old-me.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by arriu »

opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

It seems like AI could be setup to address this. I would think it would be insanely useful.

Personally, I’d rather look at an enriched summary than the original chat log in most cases. Can somebody get on this please :)

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by pingsl »

What he described is not only a Discord "issue", it applied to other modern communication tools as well. I feel Discord is better than Slack because there is no 10K searchable message limit for free accounts and ridiculous pricing model.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by dijonman2 »

nootropicat wrote: post #82
simias wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

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Very insulting response. Notification fatigue is real, and it’s heavily abused by all apps. Regardless of your age.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by everyone »

I really like Discord, but maybe its cus I grew up without internet. If you joined some club (like geology club or something) back in the day, you would show up and ask questions and whoever was there would answer your questions and ye would chat. They wouldn't respond by simply saying "RTFM!!" or "Someone already asked this!"

I think that attitude (like on stack overflow) That they are building some kind of perfect repository of knowledge for the ages from these various question and answers is delusional and has ruined that site in recent years. Most stuff on the internet seems to be highly transitory, constantly getting taken down by DMCA or some other bullshit with new stuff being uploaded in its place. Also the questions and answers themselves quickly become obsolete as tech changes.

Also, simply RTFM is not a good way to learn. There's plenty of evidence suggesting that asking questions and interactive learning is superior to simply learning by rote out of a book. When I'm learning (especially at the beginning, I really wanna ask loads of dumb questions and chat to someone who is already versed in the subject)

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by Prestoon »

binwiederhier wrote: post #13

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

One of my biggest issues is that the principles and ideas that come with the open source community are practically shutout by the use of discord. Information does not flow freely, it's locked in a server and it's not easily accessible by other people. It's not indexed by search engines. It might as well be missing completely. Half the time I plan to learn an open source project and learn that the majority of the discussion goes on in Discord, I already know that I'm going to have a horrible time finding answers when I need them so I just search for alternatives.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by ailef »

nootropicat wrote: post #82
simias wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

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For what it's worth, I'm even younger but completely agree with GP.

I now only use Discord for voice with two or three friends in a specific "channel" (or is it room?) but even then I would gladly use Teamspeak instead if possible.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by Smithalicious »

opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

In my experience discord servers will scale up to about about 20 people at most. I don't think that's the use case model discord is trying to push, but I think there's a large long tail of small friends-only discord servers in the order of 3-20 people.

Within those parameters discord does work well. Nothing else has the necessary creature comforts (by default). I think most of my friends have misgivings about discord, but I don't think there's anything else that fills this niche well at the moment.

Big discord servers are a completely different world, I don't understand how people put up with that.

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