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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by throwaway3snao »

binwiederhier wrote: post #13

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

> If you feel like everything you ask (even with you pseudonym) is recorded forever, you are more afraid to ask stupid questions

One reason more to stay away from Discord, which can keep your data and metadata forever.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by kitkat_new »

willjp wrote: post #57

I agree, but it's not discord's fault. Discord is great at what it does. I find the same social issues with discord, slack, gitter, irc, matrix.org, etc. Chat may be good for the questioneer, but it's bad for search/retention. I kind of miss the prominence of phpbb.

Matrix chats can be indexed by google and other search engines if set to public.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by inopinatus »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #52

I periodically see complaints like this posted here. I wonder if I am in an information bubble. Are HN readers, a more traditional forum, biased against non-traditional fora? If nothing else, it would be hard for to post a link on HN to Discord discussion about the advantages of Discord, where, presumably, such a discussion would most likely transpire.

One can hardly describe Discord as non-traditional, since there are no new ideas on display. It’s well executed for the needs of a particular segment, that’s all.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by pictur »

mabbo wrote: post #42

Discord is a wonderful program for real-time communication and asynchronous conversations. But are either of those use-cases how you want to provide a help system? Imagine if Stack Overflow was ephemeral. If once you asked a question, the question and answer slowly faded into nothingness for everyone who wasn't actively on the system when it was asked? And anyone who wanted help had to ask again , while the experts r…

I think this is a serious problem for the companies you mentioned. Some questions are asked maybe dozens of times and there is no written answer anywhere. or this is the correct one i don't know but it's a weird problem.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by Prestoon »

scrollaway wrote: post #34

Is there a concrete reason that we can't build a search engine for discord public content? Archive it? We used to do this for IRC as well. Anyone remembers https://ibot.rikers.org/ ?

Good idea, and I suppose people wouldn't have a problem throwing yet another bot into their server. I'd imagine the data it's scraping to be IMMENSE considering Discord saves everything.

https://blog.discord.com/how-discord-stores-billions-of-mess...

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by axegon_ »

Discord is by no means perfect but we have to give it credit where it's due: It is a very fast and responsive platform. I am currently in "servers", as they call them, with thousands of users and it feels just as effortless as one on one chats. It also offers a great deal of separation as well as public options. Comparing it to slack for instance, where every chat is almost an independent ecosystem. and using more than one is always additional effort. Video calls on the other hand are second to none. The only true criticism I have is the fact that all file uploads are entirely public with no restrictions whatsoever and as far as I can tell, there is no option to change that. Still, it is my top choice of all the proprietary options by a considerable margin.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by willjp »

kitkat_new wrote: post #62
willjp wrote: post #57

I agree, but it's not discord's fault. Discord is great at what it does. I find the same social issues with discord, slack, gitter, irc, matrix.org, etc. Chat may be good for the questioneer, but it's bad for search/retention. I kind of miss the prominence of phpbb.

Matrix chats can be indexed by google and other search engines if set to public.

Oh I didn't realize that, thank you!
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