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Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by jjtheblunt »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #27
pengaru wrote: post #13

We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

Why do they only offer it to teens (in the US , from what I've seen)?

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #31
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

Why do they only offer it to teens (in the US , from what I've seen)?

You can get it up 'til you're 45 (after that it's not approved), but you have to ask. My understanding is most adults have already been infected, so it is not considered very important to vaccinate them. If you haven't had any or many sexual partners, I reckon it could make sense to get it even if you're not a teen any more. On the other hand, if you've been with more than a handful of people, you've probably already been infected.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by escapedmoose »

Waterluvian wrote: post #19
ajkjk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_(drugs)

That reads as if the cause is a user fundamentally failing to care for their basic needs. I’m sure applying that stress to the body increases the risk of a lot of medical conditions.

I felt that it reads like it was written by someone trying to convince others that marijuana use isn’t really the cause of this issue. I smoke on occasion and am certainly not anti-pot, but I’m often irked by the pro-marijuana group’s eagerness to sweep side-effects under the rug and to pretend pot is totally healthy. I’m going to need more than a Wikipedia article to write this off, personally.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by refurb »

Terry_Roll wrote: post #5

So anyone who knows someone who has "pulled a whitey" when smoking weed has experienced a sudden release of glutathione https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione#Cosmetics So not surprised with this news considering the role it plays in cancer prevention initially and then protects the cancer cells once they get established.

Glutathione release from where?

This makes no sense.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by renewiltord »

xqcgrek2 wrote: post #2

Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

The only reason we permit a fun substance to be used is if we believe there is a medical reason. It is no surprise then that we invent medical reasons to legalize things when the ultimate goal is to have them be fun.

Like, I enjoy psilocybin and MDMA, but I'm going to upvote everything that claims it is good and I'm going to contribute my part to making it sound like the discovery of antibiotics. You know why? Anything less than that and the puritans won't let me have fun.

So I gotta lie. But you know I'm lying, I know I'm lying. It's just that when we make the argument in aggregate, you can't prove it. And there's enough dodgy science that I can invent all sorts of stuff. "There's some evidence for" is a quick trick to take a nonsense study and Gish Gallop someone with it. But that's the game. You made the game. I just play it.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by refurb »

belltaco wrote: post #17
pengaru wrote: post #13

We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

Not going to be easy. https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-f... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-ba...

This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by escapedmoose »

7thaccount wrote: post #4
xqcgrek2 wrote: post #2

Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

PBS Nova did a great documentary on Medical Cannabis recently. The researcher they interviewed said that "people seem to think it's either the greatest thing in the universe that cures all ailments or it's the devil's grass. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle". It can do great things like alleviate seizures in children, but they showed it has issues as well. One example was that those who smoke small amoun…

Sample size of one: I enjoy the pleasant effects of smoking, but it seems to trigger and/or worsen my migraines. The answer is certainly somewhere in the middle.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by petre »

serf wrote: post #29
xhevahir wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak. What does this mean?

that an exchange-traded fund that is made up of cannabis-related companies has lost 70 percent of the value that it once had in 2019. as far as how that can be used as a soothsaying device, i'm not a trader. I presume it's to be considered related to the public's interest and consideration towards the growth of the particular industry.

Or that it has not had great value to begin with and was mostly hype. It's somewhat counterintuitive given the pandemic, stay at home, work from home and the anxiety and depression epidemic that it has brought along with increased alcohol and MJ use.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by refurb »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #27
pengaru wrote: post #13

We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

Do you have a source for the 90% reduction?

It can only be given to teens so most people haven’t gotten Gardisil and if you already have HPV (most do) it doesn’t make it go away.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by howinteresting »

refurb wrote: post #36
belltaco wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to be easy. https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-f... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-ba...

This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.

The groups have a strong overlap.
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