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Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

Yep, cannabis seems like the solution for a lot of random things (various confounding diseases, including depression, etc) until you look at the possible long-term effects. Those are usually conveniently ignored. I get it though. The guy hyping and selling you cannabis is not going to be dealing with your long-term effects in 20 years.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

PBS Nova did a great documentary on Medical Cannabis recently. The researcher they interviewed said that "people seem to think it's either the greatest thing in the universe that cures all ailments or it's the devil's grass. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle". It can do great things like alleviate seizures in children, but they showed it has issues as well. One example was that those who smoke small amoun…

It was extremely disappointing that NOVA completely failed to mention Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome, and they also falsely claimed that there have been 0 marijuana-related deaths. They really didn't do their research for that episode.

The fact that you really have to hunt for these deaths, and that even seemingly-rigorous medical studies on the question can only dig up a total of three cases, combined with the fact that hundreds of millions of people (at least) use cannabis very regularly, really tells you all you need to know.

Cannabis use simply is not fatal, or even highly dangerous, under all normal conditions. Sure, yes, you can find a few 1 in 10,000,000 or 1 in 100,000,000 exceptions. You can probably find some of those for chocolate ice cream, too.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

PBS Nova did a great documentary on Medical Cannabis recently. The researcher they interviewed said that "people seem to think it's either the greatest thing in the universe that cures all ailments or it's the devil's grass. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle". It can do great things like alleviate seizures in children, but they showed it has issues as well. One example was that those who smoke small amoun…

> it's either the greatest thing in the universe that cures all ailments or it's the devil's grass. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle

Correct. And of those two extremes, it's probably closer to the negative side than to the greatest thing ever. Unfortunately, the greatest thing ever has not been found yet.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

Not going to be easy. https://www.christianpost.com/news/conservatives-raise-red-f... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/sep/16/michele-ba...

Children of such people have been dealt an awful hand.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

I recently also learned HPV is the cause of the common skin warts!

FWIW, Italy, not the most sex-liberal country, started recommending the HPV vaccine for both boy and girls at the 12th year of age a few years back.

As per the latest data, 50% of the female 2008 cohort had been vaccinated in 2020, older cohorts sit at 75% (boys at ~40%).

Seems it didn't take much to push the numbers up, other than telling people "don't die of cancer".

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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We should prioritize development and population-wide administration of effective broad-spectrum HPV vaccines, regardless of how marijuana interacts with HPV-caused cancers. HPV is basically the cause of cervical cancer, work towards eradicating this long ignored as benign virus already.

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Even Tim Leary thought doing cannabis more than once a month was akin to abuse, so yeah, those stocks are way overpriced...

Do you have a source on that?

I believe it is from this interview, but I don't have time to go through it and find the timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0NSi7tiQBE

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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post #2

Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

> and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak. What does this mean?

that an exchange-traded fund that is made up of cannabis-related companies has lost 70 percent of the value that it once had in 2019.

as far as how that can be used as a soothsaying device, i'm not a trader. I presume it's to be considered related to the public's interest and consideration towards the growth of the particular industry.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was extremely disappointing that NOVA completely failed to mention Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome, and they also falsely claimed that there have been 0 marijuana-related deaths. They really didn't do their research for that episode.

The fact that you really have to hunt for these deaths, and that even seemingly-rigorous medical studies on the question can only dig up a total of three cases, combined with the fact that hundreds of millions of people (at least) use cannabis very regularly, really tells you all you need to know. Cannabis use simply is not fatal, or even highly dangerous, under all normal conditions. Sure, yes, you can find a few 1…

https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-ice-cream-dea...

Three ice-cream deaths in a single state in a single incident! Nothing is free of risk, but despite the fearmongering, I still think cannabis is not very risky compared to many other things.

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