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I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by eddieroger »

BeefWellington wrote: post #48
eddieroger wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> The author also seems to be somewhat deceptive - "I sound like a terrible wife, but it's for journalism!" No, it seems like the author played a prank on her husband a while back and used that to neuroticaly follow him, then tried to excuse that behavior by writing this fluff piece. You need to read more of the article. > Some states, including New York, where we live, have laws criminalizing this sort of thing. No…

I think you replied a level too low.

Whoops. So it goes.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by dschep »

tinalumfoil wrote: post #13

I hate this AirTag because besides being pointless (nothing you couldn't do before), it fosters a fear of your neighbor while placing tech companies as your trusted friends. There's no evidence these, "people have freaked out after finding AirTags hidden in their bags and on their cars" are anything other than just stray airtags their owners would very much like back. Just because police (or journalists for that matt…

> won't find your AirTag if they have Android which kind of defeats the purpose

While they're alone in a car, sure. But as soon as they're around folks with iPhones, they're tracked just fine and will never get the notifications the husband in the article got.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by parasense »

ameminator wrote: post #11
nooyurrsdey wrote: post #7

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Not everything has to offer new info. Sometimes things bear repeating, it's how we add emphasis and continue the conversation. Coming out with "Apple is doing a poor job" just once isn't going to move the needle. People have to hear it over and over in a relatable way.

Fair point - but in that case, I found the author's account unrelatable, so much as to approach uncredible. Maybe it hits different for other people, but I don't appreciate being given a conclusion without any good discussion

It's resembling an attack of the author, instead of the authors ideas, aka a form of ad hominem. So it's kinda ironic to say the author adds nothing while simultaneously adding nothing with a non sequitur.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by ameminator »

fleetwoodsnack wrote: post #46
ameminator wrote: post #39

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Yes, I will present my viewpoint. I didn't find this article relatable. I didn't find new information from this article. I think this article objectively is hard to relate to and has little new information.I will share my viewpoint in a comments section - feel free to disagree. If you think it's shallow, it's probably because the original piece didn't have much meat to begin with.

>Yes, I will present my viewpoint You can, or, alternatively, you can simply acknowledge you’re not the intended audience for the article, and that you may have over-stepped rhetorically in declaring a complete absence of value with respect to insight or novelty in the article; which is there, and obviously so.

I didn't find any value, and I look forward to someone presenting some value other than "I don't like your critique".

For example, I found this comment section much more enlightening than the article, because commenters here made better discussion than I found in the article.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by kbos87 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #54
kbos87 wrote: post #32

My comment isn’t specific to AirTags, but there’s a much larger conversation that needs to be had about this gray area of stalking capabilities that are now built into many mainstream products. Here’s a pattern I’ve seen play out more than once among friends and family - they share their location willingly and for seemingly benign reasons. It’s helpful to know when you’ll be getting home so I can start dinner! Just i…

You can’t fix a lack of emotional fortitude and insecurities with technology. These are mental health challenges exacerbated by the tools available.

I don’t disagree with you. I would say that these are mental health challenges that can not only be exacerbated, but caused in the first place in some cases by having this technology so readily available. The other commenters’ point about gambling tech is a good one.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by ameminator »

parasense wrote: post #63
ameminator wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair point - but in that case, I found the author's account unrelatable, so much as to approach uncredible. Maybe it hits different for other people, but I don't appreciate being given a conclusion without any good discussion

It's resembling an attack of the author, instead of the authors ideas, aka a form of ad hominem. So it's kinda ironic to say the author adds nothing while simultaneously adding nothing with a non sequitur.

I know nothing about the author outside of this article and I can't remember ever reading anything else she wrote. The author may be a perfectly virtuous person - but knowing that may actually bias my review/critique.

For example, this is actually a story about a mother worried about her child. I really appreciate that! What I don't appreciate is someone using that to present unsupported positions.

I am attacking the piece that she wrote and it's because I don't think it was a good piece.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by trinovantes »

kbos87 wrote: post #32

My comment isn’t specific to AirTags, but there’s a much larger conversation that needs to be had about this gray area of stalking capabilities that are now built into many mainstream products. Here’s a pattern I’ve seen play out more than once among friends and family - they share their location willingly and for seemingly benign reasons. It’s helpful to know when you’ll be getting home so I can start dinner! Just i…

Only a matter of time before we start seeing news of couples fixing their marriage by sharing AirTags with each other. I say this with sarcasm but recent years have made me wonder what is reality anymore.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by fleetwoodsnack »

ameminator wrote: post #64
fleetwoodsnack wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Yes, I will present my viewpoint You can, or, alternatively, you can simply acknowledge you’re not the intended audience for the article, and that you may have over-stepped rhetorically in declaring a complete absence of value with respect to insight or novelty in the article; which is there, and obviously so.

I didn't find any value, and I look forward to someone presenting some value other than "I don't like your critique". For example, I found this comment section much more enlightening than the article, because commenters here made better discussion than I found in the article.

> I didn't find any value

Not to be crude, but that seems like a personal deficiency, not a demerit of the article. The "commenters here" who "made better discussion than I found in the article," are discussing the implications of the article's information and presenting interesting perspectives. If you didn't find anything of value, perhaps you could try thinking a bit harder or for a bit longer. Others have done so successfully.

Re: I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move

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Post by orev »

hnlmorg wrote: post #36

Can someone explain to me (because I cannot work it myself) why everyone is suddenly worried about AirTags yet these kinds of devices have been around for a while (eg the Samsung Galaxy SmartTag was released last year and little was talked about it). And GPS tracking isn't even a new thing either. So why is it most conversations focus on the AirTag? What is it that the AirTag does better/worse/differently to the othe…

AirTags do sort of change the tracking game. GPS trackers need a relatively large power supply and some kind of data connection. Tile devices are not ubiquitous, and their tracking network is limited to other Tile users.

AirTags have a huge advantage in that they use ALL iPhones as part of the tracking network, regardless of whether the iPhone owner has an AirTag themself. This allows them to work over short ranges with a tiny battery as they only need to be close enough to any iPhone for them to be trackable.

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