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99% of the tracking notifications are given to my family members. It’s hilarious that you can’t “join” a family members tag so it can be shared within the family.
Are you on a shared iCloud account? This never happens to my wife and I but we’re on the same iCloud family account.
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Can probably track the iPhone that the AirTag notified. If apple and law enforcement (private?) want to…
Nope, Apple can't tell you where an AirTag is nor can they tell you what iOS device relayed the location.
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> Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. I feel like this is ignoring the fact that if any company other than Apple made these trackers, it wouldn't do this with anyone's phones. The fact that these work out of the box with iPhones is a bonus, not an entitlement that any phone of any brand should have full support for them without installing any apps and without the use…
> I feel like this is ignoring the fact that if any company other than Apple made these trackers, it wouldn't do this with anyone's phones. Right, and Apple have provided everything that AOSP would need to implement this, someone even made their own version of the entire Find My client long ago ( https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack ), so technically AOSP could even integrate using Find My, although I imagine A…
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> That leaves "finding your keys within your home" as the only truly "officially supported" use case. That is hardly true. Case in point - my wife put down her keys at a store and managed to leave without noticing (this was early after AirTags hit the market). I was driving and we left without recognizing that a few hundred dollars of keys had been lost. Later that day, we noticed. She called a few stores all said th…
> I was driving and we left without recognizing that a few hundred dollars of keys had been lost. What do you mean by "a few hundred dollars of keys?" Do hardware stores charge more than a few dollars per key in your area? Were these private keys to a crypto wallet?
If you're living in an apartment complex or skyscraper, re-keying can get extremely expensive.
Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
I think a major part of the announcement you're skipping over is the clear statement that individual AirTags are linked to specific AppleIDs and Apple will cooperate with law enforcement to help identify the owners of AirTags used for criminal activity. If you're a wannabe stalker, the fact that Apple has made it clear they're just itching to point the cops in your direction if you misuse their technology seems like…
Most criminals wouldn't be doing what they're doing anyway if they were clever or did a modicum of research on what they can actually get away with.
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I grew up in Houston, Texas, where it was a felony to carry basically any knife bigger or more threatening than a Swiss army knife, but open-carrying a handgun was legal. I don't think knife bans have anything to do with the the 2A or the lack thereof. Knives can be seriously dangerous weapons, and in an urban environment, the stealth afforded by a knife over a gun presents further menace.
I said knife bans happened because there are knife attacks. Guns are already banned and there weren't many with civilians already so it was effective. So that leaves knives as the main weapon of choice. There are mainly knife attacks, so there are knife bans.
Texas has numerous bans on knives, despite letting their citizens have guns. Your causal logic is incorrect.
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Yes, you are right of course. But I suspect even when taking gender into account, the risk of being stalked AND tracked by an AirTag is absolutely miniscule and not worth worrying about. But I'm talking completely out of my ass, would love to see some data behind it.
The people getting stalked have a 100% risk. You don't care because for you it's all just statistics. With statistical arguments, why do we spend so many resources on prevention of anything, e.g. cancer, when it only impacts a small number of people? This kind of argument always comes down to choice. You care or you don't. Hard to argue. If you don't care about the fate of those "few", mostly women, well... there is…
I don't know why would you say such a thing.
Let me give you another example - the chance of getting stabbed on the streets of London is probably comparably miniscule to being stalked.
And now if we extend that argument - almost 100% of people getting stabbed are men.
Does that mean that as a man I should start wearing a knife-proof vest? Is me refusing to do so "not caring" or that "it's only statistics for me"?
After all, people getting stabbed have a 100% risk of getting stabbed - that's a pointless statement if I have ever seen one.
I just don't understand the aggression of that statement - just because my gender is statistically unlikely to be stalked doesn't mean that somehow I suddenly don't care, or that women shouldn't care - just that in your daily life you should really consider how big of a risk something really is.
>>With statistical arguments, why do we spend so many resources on prevention of anything, e.g. cancer, when it only impacts a small number of people?
That isn't the argument though. We aren't arguing spending or not spending money to prevent a small number of cases(in which case I'd say absolutely this money should be spent). I replied to someone who said AirTags should be completely and entirely banned over a very small number of cases where they were used maliciously.
To use the cancer comparison - it's like someone saying that we should ban bacon worldwide because it's a known factor in certain cancers. I'd also argue against it, because the risk to any one individual from eating bacon is absolutely miniscule.
Notably they hint at one of the problems but don’t discuss fixing it at all: it’s bizarre that AirTags can’t be shared with a family account. It’s irritating that if I grab my wife’s copy of the car key I get alerts about being tracked, and, conversely, it’s frustrating that she can’t locate my copy of the key when that’s the one that’s closest.
Probably deliberate since unconsented spouse tracking is probably the most common type of tracking. Maybe an icon and periodic notifications, similar to how the location service works could be a way to allow.
Android users are still vulnerable, and these announcements do nothing to reduce that. All a stalker needs to do, is remove the speaker. To detect a rogue AirTag, an Android owner needs to: 1) know AirTags exist (many obviously don't) 2) go out of their way to install Apple's Android AirTag scanner app (only 100k-500k worldwide have done so according to Google Play stats) 3) manually open the scanner app and scan, si…
Then offered a solution only to it's own customers.
That's some dystopian Apple shit right there.
Without that network it wouldn't work, you can't do this over the public internet without a swarm of physical devices you control on the other side. Companies like Apple remotely controlling devices used to mainly be a personal issue and thus a personal choice, you can just opt out of Apple to avoid it.
There is no opt out of Apple airtags.
Now every Apple user is an Apple snoop, your choice to use Apple affects _everyone_ around you... quite literally.
If somebody steals your car/purse/whatever with an airtag on it, and that person has an iPhone, will they get notification that somebody is tracking them?