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Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by catfishx »

nomendos wrote: post #139

Let me translate this into practical arguments depicting where this leads (how both dangerous and stupid it is). If this bill passes, imagine a world where: - all cloud files, activity, messages, regular over internet activity (provided by any legal company registered in US or wanting to operate in the US) etc shall be readable by the government - this would apply to ALL countries in the world - all companies will no…

Imagine hacking that master key...

So will I have to shut down my personal Nextcloud and Matrix server? Also what will happen to SSH? it's also E2EE

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by OOvsuOO »

Encryption should be a right in the bill of rights. Simple. Everybody has secure mail. We're getting hacked every 11 seconds in America. Wake up! Adjust bill of rights to reflect the new tech.

I think the internet has spoiled everything. Life used to be affordable now prices are going crazy everywhere. I blame the internet. If we didn't have it then we would have less wars, less drama, and more vary in living standards so everybody can get a piece of the pie. Now there's no pie left but the crumbs and crusts which are not very tasty.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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OOvsuOO wrote: post #162

Encryption should be a right in the bill of rights. Simple. Everybody has secure mail. We're getting hacked every 11 seconds in America. Wake up! Adjust bill of rights to reflect the new tech. I think the internet has spoiled everything. Life used to be affordable now prices are going crazy everywhere. I blame the internet. If we didn't have it then we would have less wars, less drama, and more vary in living standar…

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Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by commoner »

idontwantthis wrote: post #27

I contacted my representatives. It took 1 minute. Please do it too.

If you want to oppose the EARN IT Act, but don't want to spend the time, just use the EFF's "Take Action" page and have them send a prewritten email for you. It really does take just 1 minute. Here's a link to the page to make it even easier: https://act.eff.org/action/stop-the-earn-it-act-to-save-our-...

At a minimum, the congresspeople's aides will tally up the emails received to measure their constituents' reaction to the bill.

If you do have the time, an original email written in your own words might have a greater impact. To determine who your 2 senators and 1 representative are, use these government pages:

- Senators: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

- Representative: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representati...

Prepare a single email and alter it slightly to make it personalized for each of your 3 recipients. Use the form on the senator's or representative's official senate.gov or house.gov website to reach them, and set the category to "Communications" or "Telecommunications". (The form will block your submission if you include a URL, so don't do that.)

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by boppo1 »

Listen, we're going about this all wrong:

"Hillary Clinton, Biden, Kamala and other Deep State actors want to use the EARN IT act to read your messages and check if your kids are vaccinated. Next year, if your children haven't had 5 boosters, CPS can take them and you could face jail time! FACT!"

Anyone have MS paint and a few sockpuppet FB accounts? I'm only 20% kidding here.

Edit: forgot to fit "globalists" in there

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by raxxorrax »

nomendos wrote: post #139

Let me translate this into practical arguments depicting where this leads (how both dangerous and stupid it is). If this bill passes, imagine a world where: - all cloud files, activity, messages, regular over internet activity (provided by any legal company registered in US or wanting to operate in the US) etc shall be readable by the government - this would apply to ALL countries in the world - all companies will no…

The only way out of this is embracing to become a criminal. You have to even the playing field with intelligence agencies breaking the law without any consequence. They have to justify their existence, citizens do not.

You have to protect yourself because the government cannot and will not do it. So focusing on illegal channels is the obvious choice.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by commoner »

EGreg wrote: post #140

To test whether HN has become an echo chamber censoring any viewpoints they disagree with, I will share my actual viewpoint on end-to-end encryption. I have posted it elsewhere in the past: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25030085 First, my bona fides: I am a huge proponent of decentralization, empowering people and giving them control over their own data, relationships, and identity. I distrust large states and…

The EFF's position against the EARN IT Act is in the best interests of people in the U.S. and of people who use U.S. technology services in any country. Nobody needs to undermine end-to-end encryption (E2EE) to investigate anything, including speech. Surveillance is becoming more common, but that does not justify the elimination of E2EE. If the government already has access to plenty of data through surveillance, there is no reason that the government should violate its citizens' privacy even further by preventing citizens from having legal access to E2EE. I agree that laws should protect individual rights and freedoms, and I recognize the use of E2EE as one of those freedoms. Trust in government is no substitute for E2EE, which also protects the communications of users from being intercepted by people outside of their own government.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by nomendos »

raxxorrax wrote: post #167
nomendos wrote: post #139

Let me translate this into practical arguments depicting where this leads (how both dangerous and stupid it is). If this bill passes, imagine a world where: - all cloud files, activity, messages, regular over internet activity (provided by any legal company registered in US or wanting to operate in the US) etc shall be readable by the government - this would apply to ALL countries in the world - all companies will no…

The only way out of this is embracing to become a criminal. You have to even the playing field with intelligence agencies breaking the law without any consequence. They have to justify their existence, citizens do not. You have to protect yourself because the government cannot and will not do it. So focusing on illegal channels is the obvious choice.

that is "Oblivion" scenario if this passes or 2nd version is The World will face the music that would destroy it I'd rather try to act now with ~100000x less effort to stop this immensely stupid and dangerous act
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