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> The rate of myocarditis is much higher if you get Covid than if you get the vaccine . What are you basing this on? There was a recent UK study (preprint, last I checked) of 40 million people that showed that the risk of myocarditis was definitively higher compared to Covid in the Moderna sample and higher (albeit statistically insignificant) in the Pfizer sampler for young men. > So indirectly getting vaccine will…
Do you have a link to that study?
Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The rate of myocarditis is much higher if you get Covid than if you get the vaccine . What are you basing this on? There was a recent UK study (preprint, last I checked) of 40 million people that showed that the risk of myocarditis was definitively higher compared to Covid in the Moderna sample and higher (albeit statistically insignificant) in the Pfizer sampler for young men. > So indirectly getting vaccine will…
Do you have a link to that study?
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#63What I would like to know is, for young males (i.e. those who are most at risk of myocarditis after the vaccine), does the vaccine lessen cardiac risks in a subsequent infection or not?
The rate of myocarditis is much higher if you get Covid than if you get the vaccine . So indirectly getting vaccine will lower your risk since of heart disease as everyone will eventually get covid.
This is competely wrong. See https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v...
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#65This blog post argues that the risk is even higher for COVID after vaccine. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/02/09/heart-problems-after-cov... Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows – But It’s Hidden in the Appendix*
> Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are just predisposed to heart complications. Saying they get those because they were vaccinated is a fallacy.
No, it's based on a study with a sample size of 42 million. See https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v...
Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
#66This blog post argues that the risk is even higher for COVID after vaccine. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/02/09/heart-problems-after-cov... Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows – But It’s Hidden in the Appendix*
doubt source is suspect.
The source is the same paper just someone reading a supplementary table.
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> How many have had instances of heart failure? Who knows when every authority seems to have a vested interest in promoting vaccines no matter what.
Who is this person/organisation that made every authority agree with each other for the first time in history?
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Should be simple to determine if we just check if the increased cases started in 2020 before vaccine rollout or in 2021 after the rollout.
Check for what? Spurious correlations?
Yes, I think if you apply a medical treatment approved on emergency grounds to most of the population it would be a good idea to track their health and raise an alarm if something changes, or "correlates" as you say. Maybe even have control groups just in case.
But maybe that's just me being unreasonable.
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Ok, let’s say serious versions of those side effects were actually happening at a rate even vaguely comparable to covid 19 complications. Let’s try to prove it.
Choose any site like https://covid19.healthdata.org/ where you can graph excess mortality, hospitalization and vaccination rates over time.
There are a few periods where 60-80% of various populations got vaccinated in the same month. The mass vaccination events aren’t followed by spikes in deaths or hospitalizations.
Som the vaccine is mostly fine, or there’s a big international conspiracy at play. Millions of deaths were somehow uncounted in public records. That’s a lot of missing coroner reports (and a lot of colluding coroners). What happened to the relatives, creditors, etc?
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> How many have had instances of heart failure? Who knows when every authority seems to have a vested interest in promoting vaccines no matter what.
Who is this person/organisation that made every authority agree with each other for the first time in history?
When the FDA does something it influences regulatory bodies around the world, in case you have not heard.