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Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by labster »

toastercat wrote: post #78
rectang wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm disappointed that Jacky Rosen (D - Nevada) is a co-sponsor. She's a former software developer and should know better. I just watched some of the Senate hearing on Log4J and she seemed reasonably together on security, open source etc. I was feeling optimistic that she could become the Senatorial analogue to Judge Alsup[1]! But if she's on board with EARN IT, scratch that idea. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/…

I've worked as a software developer for 8 years so far. I have yet to meet a single fellow developer who is privacy-conscious.

At my previous employer, among the 40 or so developer staff worldwide, there were only two of us who used Signal: myself (security focused backend dev) and the devops team security expert. Everyone else: just use WhatsApp so we can all communicate in the same place. Caring about privacy can be exhausting.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by JCharante »

rectang wrote: post #70
icodestuff wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the list of cosponsors, who will presumably vote for it. I don't see the list of committee members who voted for it. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/353...

I'm disappointed that Jacky Rosen (D - Nevada) is a co-sponsor. She's a former software developer and should know better. I just watched some of the Senate hearing on Log4J and she seemed reasonably together on security, open source etc. I was feeling optimistic that she could become the Senatorial analogue to Judge Alsup[1]! But if she's on board with EARN IT, scratch that idea. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/…

They had senate hearings for log4j?

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by bongoman37 »

nitrogen wrote: post #88
atlantas wrote: post #76

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I don't understand why people keep voting them back in?? They've been useless for so long, yet people continue to check the box next to their name. Why?

Some but not all of the reasons: It's virtually impossible for a primary candidate to unseat an incumbent in their own party, and gerrymandering makes it so that opposing parties rarely have solid candidates.

You might call it regulatory capture of democracy.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by tempestn »

dane-pgp wrote: post #32
lyime wrote: post #19

If this passes wouldn't this accelerate the decentralized encrypted communication movement? How can government stop that?

Imagine if the government forced app stores, anti-virus companies, and OS providers to prevent the installation of "dangerous" applications. How many people are going to jailbreak their phone or run Linux on their laptop in order to install an E2EE chat app?

And even those who do won't have very many people to chat with.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by krainboltgreene »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #73
tehwebguy wrote: post #60

Incredible, once again the Senate is completely incapable of doing anything good but gets their shit together whenever it’s time to do something stupid and terrible. Would be better to just vote against the majority going forward, at least try to tie things up so they can do nothing instead of what they end up doing whenever they get around to doing something . Truly amazing how Chuck Schumer gets a pass in the media…

Right majority or left majority the senate always seems to do nothing but work against the people.

We've never had a left majority in either part of congress.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by tempestn »

29083011397778 wrote: post #22

> and it will let the use of encryption be evidence in lawsuits and criminal trials How long until the comparisons to East Germany start? America is apparently gearing up for "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear", with many seemingly agreeing with this sentiment. Perhaps more importantly, how have major journalistic networks not written about this bill in the worst possible light? When your sources w…

That's a good point. Perhaps as well as writing to representatives it could be helpful to write to EG the Washington Post and ask them to cover the issue more extensively.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by bayindirh »

labster wrote: post #91
toastercat wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked as a software developer for 8 years so far. I have yet to meet a single fellow developer who is privacy-conscious.

At my previous employer, among the 40 or so developer staff worldwide, there were only two of us who used Signal: myself (security focused backend dev) and the devops team security expert. Everyone else: just use WhatsApp so we can all communicate in the same place. Caring about privacy can be exhausting.

It's very hard for security conscious people to attract other people to more privacy conscious platforms. People love the practicality, and don't want to trade for they can't see or understand.

I'd love to use signal, but it'd be a very silent place, and have to have WhatsApp anyway. So, instead of trying to entice others, I just try to win a one small battle at a time, reducing my cross-section step by step, where I can.

Re: Key senators have voted for the anti-encryption EARN IT act

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Post by rectang »

JCharante wrote: post #92
rectang wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm disappointed that Jacky Rosen (D - Nevada) is a co-sponsor. She's a former software developer and should know better. I just watched some of the Senate hearing on Log4J and she seemed reasonably together on security, open source etc. I was feeling optimistic that she could become the Senatorial analogue to Judge Alsup[1]! But if she's on board with EARN IT, scratch that idea. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/…

They had senate hearings for log4j?

Specifically a Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee hearing.

Here you go!

> Senate HSGAC Hearing on the Log4Shell Vulnerability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTgTe5HBYvg

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