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Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by shabble »

I'm going to drag out another cstross quote (from Accelerando[1]):

"[...] his suitcase is on its way to Mombasa, where it will probably be pithed and resurrected in the service of some African cyber-Fagin. That's okay by Manfred — it only contains a statistically normal mixture of second hand clothes and toiletries, and he only carries it to convince the airline passenger-profiling expert systems that he isn't some sort of deviant or terrorist"

At what point is it going to be statistically abnormal to not be sharing the minutiae of your life in this way, and what are the consequences to anyone who wants to retain some level of privacy? Will they be required to maintain some sort of statistically-average social network profile, occasionally updating it with something plausible?

[1] http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelera...

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by breathesalt »

bitops wrote: post #2

I agree with a lot of what this article is saying. Sharing everything by default is pointless and misses the point of sharing. I want to share something with my friends because I think it might inspire them or make them happy. Or, in the case of news, let them know about important stuff that's happening in the world. They do the same thing when they share with me. So to blindly share everything just creates a lot of…

I disagree. I feel we shouldn't have to have an extra step to share what we search for. The act of searching can be sharing and also in itself what people search. I do agree facebook is the wrong medium to achieve this though, google maybe; it needs to be at the browser level and open sourced as much as possible.

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by aangjie »

breathesalt wrote: post #32
bitops wrote: post #2

I agree with a lot of what this article is saying. Sharing everything by default is pointless and misses the point of sharing. I want to share something with my friends because I think it might inspire them or make them happy. Or, in the case of news, let them know about important stuff that's happening in the world. They do the same thing when they share with me. So to blindly share everything just creates a lot of…

I disagree. I feel we shouldn't have to have an extra step to share what we search for. The act of searching can be sharing and also in itself what people search. I do agree facebook is the wrong medium to achieve this though, google maybe; it needs to be at the browser level and open sourced as much as possible.

I don't know. I mean imagine google sharing a post in google+ whenever you run a search query on their search engine? Perhaps, you would like to qualify the type of search? There are various levels of specificity of searches and you refer to those deep,precise levels? In that case, i can see the point.

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by [deleted] »

nostromo wrote: post #12
kwamenum86 wrote: post #10

I don't agree with everything the author says but I think I agree with the sentiment. I think frictionless sharing is a departure from how people express themselves in real life. During real world interactions we present our carefully tailored selves to the rest of the world. We don't tell everyone everything we are doing for a reason. One positive with reducing friction is that it might be easier to find common grou…

I've personally had this play out with a number of services. LastFM comes to mind. I really enjoyed having a persistent record of what I listened to for my own use and for finding new music. However, I stopped using the service because, honestly, I'm not exactly proud of every song that makes it to my most-played list. LastFM let's you remove a song from your profile if I remember correctly, but it was easier to not…

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Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by 0x12 »

hanibash wrote: post #5

The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…

I don't think I want 'everything to go into the graph in a structured way'. Name, rank and serialnumber should be enough. Anything more and you should ask for permission first.

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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Post by 0x12 »

mscarborough wrote: post #18
ArchD wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't confuse sharing with data collection. Data about a user's activities can be collected without sharing that data with the user's friends.

Yes, by having sites incentivized to include a Facebook Like iframe everywhere you visit, by example. If you're logged into Facebook, then you are already sharing your online habits with them.

The first time I noticed that I logged out of facebook, I haven't been back since. Way too creepy.

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

#39

Post by 0x12 »

nostromo wrote: post #12
kwamenum86 wrote: post #10

I don't agree with everything the author says but I think I agree with the sentiment. I think frictionless sharing is a departure from how people express themselves in real life. During real world interactions we present our carefully tailored selves to the rest of the world. We don't tell everyone everything we are doing for a reason. One positive with reducing friction is that it might be easier to find common grou…

I've personally had this play out with a number of services. LastFM comes to mind. I really enjoyed having a persistent record of what I listened to for my own use and for finding new music. However, I stopped using the service because, honestly, I'm not exactly proud of every song that makes it to my most-played list. LastFM let's you remove a song from your profile if I remember correctly, but it was easier to not…

Another closet ABBA fan?
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