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An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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You can drive your Tesla using your smartphone app or other devices.

unless if their servers go down, in which case you can't unlock your car

Proximity unlocking does not rely on LTE, and still works. Remote unlocking using the app would not work, because it relies on LTE. So the car can still be unlocked and used as normal in areas where there is no cellular reception. This is not some egregious oversight.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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There is an Android app which allows Android users to see the same notifications.

Yea, but philosophically, you shouldn't have to opt in (to opt out) - if I don't want to any part of apple's ecosystem, this forces me to actively opt out.

What do you want them to do? Shoot brain waves in to your skull to notify you without any device?

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Yea, but philosophically, you shouldn't have to opt in (to opt out) - if I don't want to any part of apple's ecosystem, this forces me to actively opt out.

What do you want them to do? Shoot brain waves in to your skull to notify you without any device?

There's really nothing they can do short of not doing the airtags at all. The spectrum does not belong to them, it's leased to them and they are a user. We can ask for oversight.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Just keep nerfing it Apple. They made the beeps louder with this new update too. So every time my wife borrows keys, my car, etc it's gonna go nuts. I guess I'm going to have to rip the speaker coils out of all of them at this point.

It's nuts that there's no family sharing ability, which would moot this common issue.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Hilarious. In one statement they claim to prioritise privacy and then also explain why their product is not at all private and can practically be used against the owner by law enforcement.

Apple don't care a jot about privacy. This became clear with the CSAM debacle. That's why I left their ecosystem, and I'm very happy with my new phone running GrapheneOS.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Have any of the AirTag stalking mitigations actually been defeated by hackers? Besides physically removing the speaker. The “an AirTag is traveling with you” alerts haven’t been defeated as far as I can tell. Apple tweaked some of the time periods after launch but the core technical mitigations are the same. I agree the current situation is non-ideal, but it’s not clear to me this is from a lack of sufficient pre-rel…

> The “an AirTag is traveling with you” alerts haven’t been defeated as far as I can tell. Perhaps not, but they're meaningless to the >50% of the population that doesn't have a modern enough iPhone as their daily carry phone. Having moved back to a flip phone, I literally have no way to identify if such a tag is being used against me.

And 100% of the population has no way to monitor if a GPS tracker has been planted.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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Are airtags still useful for eg. tracking a stolen bike? Or will it now alert the thief within minutes that the bike contains a tracker?

Well now the airtags give the thief a way to locate the airtag and remove it--in addition to telling them that the air tag is there.

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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I've said this in other threads, but I'm probably done buying AirTags, because the anti-stalking features, that I assume you're aware of, are so annoying, that I don't want to add any more to my life. When I get in my car with my wife, we both get a notification that an AirTag is following us, because my wife is potentially stalking me with her purse and keys. I can silence this notification for only one day. I can't…

Apple just needs to add shared AirTags to iClould family sharing. I think that’d solve your issue and ~90% of other unwanted stalking alerts. They already allow shared “Find My iDevice” and just need to add AirTags to the mix.

or just be able to mark an airtag as friendly?

Re: An update on AirTag and unwanted tracking

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99% of the tracking notifications are given to my family members. It’s hilarious that you can’t “join” a family members tag so it can be shared within the family.

Are you on a shared iCloud account? This never happens to my wife and I but we’re on the same iCloud family account.
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