Some days ago I saw some people here saying that billions of dollars was wasted in LHC. I would like to know their opinion about new findings. The post in question http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2943950 .
This wasn't the LHC. It was a non-LHC experiment at CERN. (I agree with your sentiment, however.)
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am i the only one that has come to love the scientific method simply because it creates more questions than it answers. there is just so much that we do not and cannot understand. the more we learn, the less we know. fantastic. on the flipside, i would be certain that certainty is a particular kind of hell, if having such knowledge didn't condemn me to it. excuse me while i proceed to consume my tail http://en.wikipe…
The Scientific Method could be boiled down to: 10: Question Reality 20: Verify Results 30: GOTO 10
while anyone_cares:
improve_model()
if theory_of_everything_appears or strong_ai_appears:
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That can't be it because the error wouldn't straddle the speed of light. It would put the range at 1.000022 c to 1.000080 c, both of which exceed c, so they wouldn't have written it off as error.
But that doesn't indicate a hard error bound; this is a statistical matter, after all. Most likely it's just an expected standard deviation.
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#207Tesla postulated that there are faster speeds than light-speed... so he might have been right after all. Or maybe he was just thinking of ludicrous speed.
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#208There was an experiment where an impulse of light came out the other end of a material faster than light could have traveled through vacuum in the same space. The eventual explanation was as follows - imagine that your outgoing bunch of photons looks like this: :::... The first three photons are "invisible" because there is so few of them that they are below the equipment sensitivity. The second group of six particle…
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#209If this result is valid then it would mean that neutrinos are capable of traveling .0025% faster than light. There was a supernova that we observed in 1987 (SN 1987) that occurred 168,000 light years away from us. A neutrino burst was observed in 3 different labs about 3 hours before the light was observed. If neutrinos are capable of traveling .0025% faster than the speed of light then why would we observe these neu…
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The models are secret... wait, seriously??
Short answer is no, long answer is sort of. The way in which data / code is released is a complex issue. However, if your willing to wait a reasonable amount of time AND pay for the costs involved you can get just about everything produced. Still, in the larger context validating someone's data is basically worthless activity. It's far more important to go out and collect new data, build a new model, run a new simula…