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Not Sharing Is Caring
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#22The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…
No Hanibash, you're missing the main point... If FB and their partners want users to share, why not approach the users and ask for permission first? What's the harm? The user will either accept the term or decline it.
What we have here is blatant disregard for user security. Facebook is clearly saying that if you don't like it... you can dig around fb (or the partner site/s) and attempt to find the settings that control these new functions.
If facebook even had the slightest care in the universe about user experience they would at least ask the user to opt-in first to use the features. Since when does one company decide what I want to share, and who I want to share it with?...I do not want every one of my fb friends to see what movie I watched or what music I'm listening to. Nor, would I give permission.
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#23Zuck is simply trying to build a site that improves our ability to be social.
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#24The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…
No Hanibash, you're missing the main point... If FB and their partners want users to share, why not approach the users and ask for permission first? What's the harm? The user will either accept the term or decline it. What we have here is blatant disregard for user security. Facebook is clearly saying that if you don't like it... you can dig around fb (or the partner site/s) and attempt to find the settings that cont…
You're quite right. This is why apps have a new permission dialog to show you exactly what gets shared, which you have to click accept prior to using it. As long as the app isn't facebook only, you can always use it without the facebook integration. and if it is, there will probably A facebook-free competitor you can use.
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#25Google wants to keep real names (just like Facebook) and they get scolded for it, because some people say they really care about their privacy, and they want to be able to use a different name than their real one.
Now Facebook wants to automatically share everything about you, essentially killing whatever privacy you had left on Facebook, and people applaud it.
Maybe not related (yet), but it does remind me of this quote:
"Freedom is lost to the sound of thunderous applause."
This is a great opportunity for Google put a spin on what Facebook is doing with all this, and say they are going the opposite direction, and instead of auto-sharing everything about you like Facebook does, Google+ allows you to choose exactly what you share and to who.
Facebook's features may seem cool today, but they have the potential to turn into the biggest PR disaster for Facebook, bigger than their "privacy settings" issue from last year.
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#26More than sharing it is closer to broadcasting all my activities to my friends. But I think Facebook is onto something here. What if this broadcast in future can be curated and only interesting things get displayed automatically. What if it looks at what our friends are doing and gets recommendations? Excessive sharing is just the first steps towards this.
Exactly. And this is the scariest part that the author and everyone else in this thread missed.
TL;DR: Facebook is tightening its filter bubble around you and getting more in between you and your friends.
Ignoring the new features that were added, there is one feature that has disappeared -- the full list of your friend updates in the News feed.
Previously you could click on "Most recent" and get a list of all updates. Now they are filtered and it is totally inconvenient to get around this: you must explicitly check "All updates" from every friends context menu (by default it is "Most updates").
It may seem like a feature until you realize that you may miss the news that your friends are OccupyingWallStreet or criticizing Facebook or doing other twoplusbad things.
Now I am not against filtering and ranking most news (as in media) automatically. I think it is a great achievement that we are able to do this. However I am strongly against anyone deciding for me what is important for me and my friends. There is a line that should be drawn somewhere and you should not ignore this.
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#27I used to enjoy the way many FriendFeed entries were side-effects of actions friends were taking elsewhere, e.g., adding a movie to their queue on Netflix. And often these would spark interesting conversations.
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#28More than sharing it is closer to broadcasting all my activities to my friends. But I think Facebook is onto something here. What if this broadcast in future can be curated and only interesting things get displayed automatically. What if it looks at what our friends are doing and gets recommendations? Excessive sharing is just the first steps towards this.
Exactly. And this is the scariest part that the author and everyone else in this thread missed. TL;DR: Facebook is tightening its filter bubble around you and getting more in between you and your friends. Ignoring the new features that were added, there is one feature that has disappeared -- the full list of your friend updates in the News feed. Previously you could click on "Most recent" and get a list of all update…
The full list of updates is still there on the left side where you have a live stream of updates flowing all the time. Of course it fills up real quick but its still there. Also on the left side they have list tabs using which you can go to the old familiar UI. I for one like the newer UI better.
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#29Google wants to keep real names (just like Facebook) and they get scolded for it, because some people say they really care about their privacy, and they want to be able to use a different name than their real one. Now Facebook wants to automatically share everything about you, essentially killing whatever privacy you had left on Facebook, and people applaud it. Maybe not related (yet), but it does remind me of this q…
Where did you see automatic sharing of everything. From what I read, you will always have control of what you share. They can't afford to repeat the past mistakes around sharing. It'd be fatal now.
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#30Google wants to keep real names (just like Facebook) and they get scolded for it, because some people say they really care about their privacy, and they want to be able to use a different name than their real one. Now Facebook wants to automatically share everything about you, essentially killing whatever privacy you had left on Facebook, and people applaud it. Maybe not related (yet), but it does remind me of this q…
Link to the quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNAHjsAnTd4