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Not Sharing Is Caring

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Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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More than sharing it is closer to broadcasting all my activities to my friends. But I think Facebook is onto something here. What if this broadcast in future can be curated and only interesting things get displayed automatically. What if it looks at what our friends are doing and gets recommendations? Excessive sharing is just the first steps towards this.

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I don't agree with everything the author says but I think I agree with the sentiment. I think frictionless sharing is a departure from how people express themselves in real life. During real world interactions we present our carefully tailored selves to the rest of the world. We don't tell everyone everything we are doing for a reason. One positive with reducing friction is that it might be easier to find common grou…

I've personally had this play out with a number of services. LastFM comes to mind.

I really enjoyed having a persistent record of what I listened to for my own use and for finding new music.

However, I stopped using the service because, honestly, I'm not exactly proud of every song that makes it to my most-played list. LastFM let's you remove a song from your profile if I remember correctly, but it was easier to not share at all than to remove specific types of sharing.

Facebook has this problem times 100. I try and tell everyone I know that isn't technical that Facebook knows every website they've been on that has a like button on it (and then I make a serious face and say evverry site) most people have no idea. The idea that Facebook has this kind of info and is going to start "autosharing" makes me uncomfortable.

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#13

While exposing everything will be noisy, I think facebook wants to collect all your activity so that it can learn and automatically share what you might manually share... It's the hard way of ultimately removing friction from manual sharing.

In other words taking the "you" out of sharing. "You" isn't you, it's facebook.

But it would be influenced by you.

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The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…

Not sure why this was voted down. You make a good point about the possibility of mining all this data, but I'm not sure I want to give it away. We (well, some of us), go to lengths to maintain separate online personas. Why do I care if Facebook knows what my most-played songs are? I can get that info from iTunes, etc. They're going to need a strong pull (killer app, privacy controls, whatever) to get my data.

I think it was voted down because it reads like marketing copy. (I didn't downvote it)

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The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…

Not sure why this was voted down. You make a good point about the possibility of mining all this data, but I'm not sure I want to give it away. We (well, some of us), go to lengths to maintain separate online personas. Why do I care if Facebook knows what my most-played songs are? I can get that info from iTunes, etc. They're going to need a strong pull (killer app, privacy controls, whatever) to get my data.

So instead of sharing data with your friends, family and a corporation you just want to share it with a corporation? Someone already has your online data the only difference is who that someone is. That someone can still choose to sell your data on to anyone who will buy it in most countries.

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I agree with a lot of what this article is saying. Sharing everything by default is pointless and misses the point of sharing. I want to share something with my friends because I think it might inspire them or make them happy. Or, in the case of news, let them know about important stuff that's happening in the world. They do the same thing when they share with me. So to blindly share everything just creates a lot of…

"We all love lolcats but know how to find them on our own"

Lol, I really like your comment! It sounds like it could be a great tagline for my web app, http://handpick.me

Just curious, how are you and your friends updating each other on what's big in the world today?

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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I don't agree with everything the author says but I think I agree with the sentiment. I think frictionless sharing is a departure from how people express themselves in real life. During real world interactions we present our carefully tailored selves to the rest of the world. We don't tell everyone everything we are doing for a reason. One positive with reducing friction is that it might be easier to find common grou…

"During real world interactions we present our carefully tailored selves to the rest of the world. We don't tell everyone everything we are doing for a reason."

Nicely put, just like how we behave differently in front of our parents as compared to our peers.

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The author is completely missing the point. Implicit sharing allows for everything to go into the graph in a structured way. This is the most important aspect of implicit sharing and the new Open Graph. This doesn't mean that you're going to get inundated with meaningless shares. That would be a horrible user experience. In fact, Facebook put a lot of time and effort into making sure that is exactly what didn't happe…

Don't confuse sharing with data collection. Data about a user's activities can be collected without sharing that data with the user's friends.

Yes, by having sites incentivized to include a Facebook Like iframe everywhere you visit, by example. If you're logged into Facebook, then you are already sharing your online habits with them.

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

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I worry about the extreme fan-out that goes between content producers, datacenters packed with algorithms and content mills packed with hacks, dedicated to rewriting and excerpting that content, and then all these sharing mechanisms broadcasting this massaged crap out to the world. Is the Internet getting better from all this? What is the ratio of thought invested in producing quality content, versus thought invested in simply distributing any content?

Sorry for the rant :|

Re: Not Sharing Is Caring

#20
I agree, I feel like these days people share much more than what is relevant or necessary. The easier they make it to "share" the more worthless crap were going to see. Do I really care that my buddy is listening to lady gaga? Nope. But I figure if he listens to something good he'll TELL me. That "friction" that Zuckerberg is talking about is the filter that stops worthless information from getting through.
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