Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
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Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
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Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
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#3> Apple offers a phone number employers can call to verify titles of former Apple employees. A voice recording on that line directs callers to the web site for InVerify, an employment verification service provider owned by credit agency Equifax. When The Washington Post called InVerify’s customer support number, a customer service representative said Apple is the only company he knew of that changes job titles of employees when they leave. Apple also changes titles for employees who have taken a leave of absence, the person said.
So basically, if your new employer checks your title before you leave Apple, you're fine?
This is a huge dick move by Apple.
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#4There's databases out there with everyone's career record where you have no control over but the employers do? I rest my case..
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#5> Apple offers a phone number employers can call to verify titles of former Apple employees. A voice recording on that line directs callers to the web site for InVerify, an employment verification service provider owned by credit agency Equifax. When The Washington Post called InVerify’s customer support number, a customer service representative said Apple is the only company he knew of that changes job titles of emp…
I can't think of a legitimate reason for it other than to create problems for people that leave Apple. That practice sounds pretty dirty.
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#6Wouldn't there be other ways for you to prove you were a "Level 4" or whatever at Apple and not an associate? An offer letter from Apple? Or just the totality of circumstances in general. If say you're interviewing for a "Sr Engineer" position, you're just not going to have an instance where the candidate shows experience and knowledge but doesn't get hired because some record from Lexis Nexis says that he was an "associate" at Apple prior to coming here. Something like that I feel would get resolved in conversation very quickly.
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#7Steve Jobs; former associate at Apple.
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#8It surprised me much more to know that there are databases maintained by the likes of Equifax about persons' complete employment history, job titles and all...
I think GDPR here in Europe really woke up the feeling that this kind of data shouldn't exist without explicit approval from the person which PII belongs to. This is beyond fucked up in my data privacy minded worldview.
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#9There's databases out there with everyone's career record where you have no control over but the employers do? I rest my case..
Wait, can a future employer request my past salary information from InVerify (or another service) without my approval or permission?
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#10Steve Jobs; former associate at Apple.
"Well, he went on medical leave, so we changed his title to Mainstream Medicine Denier and then Organ System Pentester."
Reference: https://apecsec.org/steve-jobs-liver-transplant-controversy/