Comments here are really surprising. I really struggle to understand Product Hunt. I've spent multiple sleepless nights scrolling through it and I couldn't find a single meaningful or useful thing. I guess if you start splashing water around the streets, you will find a few perfectly shaped puddle. But I have never stumbled upon anything that made me think "wow, this is awesome" not even "this might be useful".
Are Product Hunt's featured products still online today?
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#92I have launched on PH last year, ended up 5th product of the day then companies started reaching out asking for demos.
I left my job end of that week and been doing it full time for a year now.
However, I agree with comments about launches in general. If you have a good network, you can launch rubbish and end up in the top 5.
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> I find your warning a bit unfair as there are literally no CTA inside the blog content promoting our product and only 2 internal links toward other educational posts. I've worked in or adjacent to the content marketing world long enough to know that a CTA is not necessary for the post to be marketing/advertising. One of the major goals of content marketing it to establish the authority of the brand. You are well aw…
What's the point of the warning though? If you're paying attention you know it's content marketing. If you're oblivious, the marketing probably isn't working. Either way, you probably don't need a warning.
I love warnings, because I don't have to pay as much attention.
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I find your warning a bit unfair as there are literally no CTA inside the blog content promoting our product and only 2 internal links toward other educational posts. But anyway, I thought about taking a random sample of pages who returns a "200". Let's say 150, and manually tagging them to find if they're "dead" or not. And then reuse the "dead or alive but a 200" ratio for all the pages but I was afraid that I'd ne…
> I find your warning a bit unfair as there are literally no CTA inside the blog content promoting our product It’s obviously blog content designed to promote your product, hosted on the company’s product website. I don’t see how the FYI is unfair. I added it because the content was valuable but HN can be finicky about blog posts from companies advertising their own products. Trying to get ahead of indignant dismissa…
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#95> there's actually proportionally less failures in Product Hunts busiest period This is a really interesting post! I think there's a little survivorship bias. As Product Hunt grew 2015-2017, users posted old projects of theirs which were already popular and successful.
Glad you enjoyed the post - I hadn't considered this.
My guess would be that URLs for the categories eliminated after that period (eg. Books and Podcasts) are more likely to remain stable and available, even if the product was a flop.
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#97Comments here are really surprising. I really struggle to understand Product Hunt. I've spent multiple sleepless nights scrolling through it and I couldn't find a single meaningful or useful thing. I guess if you start splashing water around the streets, you will find a few perfectly shaped puddle. But I have never stumbled upon anything that made me think "wow, this is awesome" not even "this might be useful".
When they first started a few years ago I used to visit them quite a bit, and often found interesting things, but most (all?) that I actually used ended up being discontinued a year or so later.
I don't visit the site really every anymore, but I did take a week the other week, and like you, nothing really stood out to me.
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> Scraping can be done from a single source That's not what this tool does though. It allows you to distribute your scraping to a layer of proxies. So, the only difference is whether there is an intent to do harm to the target or merely collect data... which could be a form of doing harm as well?
There are plenty of tools like this where going up to the line is much different than crosing it. There's a vast difference between driving your car to an event and driving the few extra meters into the crowd at an event. You can cut down a tree with a chainsaw or cut down a tree onto your neighbours house. There's definetly an argument that dangerous tools should be regulated to varying degrees. If we're arguing reg…
The tree example is true and why I agree these things are very similar. The only significant difference is when you put it on your neighbor’s house on purpose.
I wouldn’t regulate this but If you’re introducing regulations, why not just require the source to deliver the data in a neatly packaged format? The necessity for scraping and the potential for DDOS and potentially nefarious behavior basically goes away.
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No more nefarious than the measures websites put up to avoid scrapers? This just rehashes the Linkedin vs Hiq case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn (not a user, but I do some amount of scraping through other means)
It is definitely super annoying that companies are allowed to spy on us and do all kinds of crazy things with our data, all using computers and automation and "bots" and such, but individuals are increasingly not allowed to use automation to help us out online. Seems rather one-sided. On the other hand, I get that abuse is a huge problem. I do wish at least bots operating at roughly human request rates & daily total…
A lot of data I provide to services is exposed to other individuals so that the service can function. They doesn't mean that data belongs to those people or that they can feely use that data elsewhere.
Allowing unfettered scraping and repurposing of data would have a chilling effect on all types of services. For example I wouldn't necessarily want a bot to scrape my comment history on HN, doxx me, and share my identity and comments with others.
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#100Anecdotal data. I released a couple of things on product hunt. Popularity-wise one did will, the other went nowhere. Financially, it was completely the opposite. Boring stuff is very successful. I haven't seen a "popular" product hunt thing that I am willing to pay for in ages!! People pay for pain meds, product hunt featured products are colorful vitamins.
It's a little like competing over the store check-out aisle shelves. It's unlikely it has what you actually need but there might be sometime shiny or tasty. And if you do want more next time you'll probably go shop around instead.