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TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
Post Snowden leaks, one could pretty much say the same about any American tech giant.
It is a little different with the nsa tapping the underwater cable trying to steal info where in China they create an internet where they hire millions of people to watch every conversation happening in real time. One couldn't say the same.. at all.
> watch every conversation happening in real time
Eh.... are you sure? A lot of my childhood friends are now working in various ares of what you might consider 'authoritative post' or the infamous 有关部门 but I think it's still a bit too divorced from reality. Censorship and blatant blockage for sure but millions spying on billions in real time? I don't think that's how they work.
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You are assuming that the platform would not exist if the company didn't create it. But if tiktok doesn't exist the discussion would just happen somewhere else. I should also say that I'm not suggesting that tiktok was created for the sole purpose of pushing propaganda from its inception.
Well then I guess there is nothing left to say, as there is absolutely nothing that can be falsified in your beliefs, only the single-minded faith in an absolute national enemy. I only wish y'all could hear yourselves when you say these things, with even a fraction more rational clarity, even an ounce more suspicion of the political narratives at work here. These conversations are deeply troubling to me, makes me abs…
> Well then I guess there is nothing left to say, as there is absolutely nothing that can be falsified in your beliefs, only the single-minded faith in an absolute national enemy.
Got it, so since you couldn't argue against my statements with reason you are now attacking my character.
> makes me absolutely ashamed to be a westerner of any sorts
Absolutely nobody that is from the west calls themselves a westerner whatever the hell that means. Also FYI, there is an extreme mistrust and dislike of China from almost every country in the so called East. So it isn't a west vs east thing.
Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you've logged in it can potentially match your login information or email address to other activity on the web. TikTok's servers could also place you geographically somewhat roughly based on ip address. Outside of that I agree. It's unclear what data TikTok is supposedly gathering that other apps aren't already and why that's a cause for alarm.
Phase 1: Collect data about what users like to watch on TikTok Phase 2: ??? Phase 3: The world is now controlled by China and we are doing full communism
but you don't understand! This is taking away from AMERICAN profits from surveillance capitalism! Think of the jobs at stake!
Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
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> I'm in my mid-40s: there's nothing deep or mysterious to "get" about TikTok. It's short-form video snips/vignettes, mainly of people showing off for their friends, trying to cash in on short-lived audio trends and meme pipelines, and sometimes both. What this misses is that TikTok is a radically different experience for different people. For some people, this description is very accurate. For other people, they wou…
>For other people, they would barely recognize TikTok on the basis of this description. Not following. Who are the "other people" and how would they describe it otherwise?
TikTok has a very good algorithm for suggesting content for users, and this can end up with different users being exposed to radically different subsets of content offered through TikTok: in scientific terms, it’s very easy to get stuck in different local minima.
So for many users, TikTok will not involve “showing off to friends”, will not involve audio trends, and will not involve memes at all.
These users would describe it as containing short-form video content relevant to whatever their particular niche or interest may be.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
Snowden exposed the wholesale, unauthorized data collection operation the US NatSec complex was performing and we haven't banned the us government from peering to the internet. Why should we ban people voluntarily using a short video service that shows them things they like and whose business model is virtually identical to every other social media company?
There's a difference between listening and engaging. The NSA listens. TikTok listens, engages, and suggests new content and ideas to millions.
NSA works against infrastructure providers to breech their security guards so they can continue to hoover up data, and backdoors products/algorithms.
TikTok shows you 80s commercials and clips from industrial films after figuring out that you want to see 80s commercials and clips from industrial films.
Based on the ads that I get, which are pretty unintrusive, easily identifiable and always skippable, it doesn't seem like their analytics are that advanced. Besides random major brands, who are essentially broadcasting ads, I get ads for diesel mechanic tech schools and random wish products.
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#317These types of articles always frustrate me because the authors never seem to question where and how these apps are getting your data. These APIs and privileges are granted by iOS and Android. If only we had real privacy legislation in the US that could limit what is exposed to apps rather than being at the mercy of Google and Apple to put limits in place. It's not like TikTok is hacking into your phone
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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t refute anything you say, but linking to a page that features Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson doesn’t help your case. Not to mention the clear partisanship and call for donation to the “American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology” - a rabbit hole I’m happy to avoid.
Isn't the whole, "TikTok spies for China" meme also politically motivated, per the last Republican president? I don't doubt that Bytedance shares Chinese TouTiao user data with the Chinese government, akin to how Apple does it with iCloud, but Bytedance has been pretty adamant that TikTok is external to China and doesn't share data. Even when there was an executive order to ban TikTok for being a national security th…
And this is where the conversation derails - when someone asks for evidence.
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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes
#320It's not unclear at all. It's Chinese data harvesting software. They'll do token public appeasement to avoid negative pressure, but every feature in the app is designed to collect biometrics and behavioral data. China is not a good faith operator. Given the data needed to influence public opinion and voting, they will engage in manipulation favorable to their interests. That alone is sufficient to run tiktok at a los…
I've seen more advertisments for major brand products, targetted at kids through Tik Tok than I have seen political propoganda. If anything, Tik Tok just reinforces the current "western" status quo than anything else. It probably reinforces what ever the advertisers in any country can pay for.