I can't help but think of bitrot. You spend an afternoon "scrapbooking" in real life, and you get something that your grand-grandsons might, one day, inherit and read in awe. You spend an afternoon scrapbooking on FB, and in ten years FB goes bust or whatever (Geocities, anyone?), and you've got nothing. I guess the real test will be my wife -- she loves scrapbooking. (this, and the first time I went through the pres…
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#92Does anyone here remember when Facebook had this feature back in 2004/2005? It was a little simpler, but exactly the same idea. They killed it a long time ago, but I guess they just decided to bring it back. The dude in the video has sure aged and accomplished an impressive amount in Facebook's 7 year history.
Facebook used to be more of a social network for finding people you don't know, and now it's a social network for the people you know. I really miss searching through profiles. I made a lot of friends randomly that way at my school. I'd click on a band name, a movie, a person or anything, find all the people that liked that band, find out a person was really awesome, hang out with them, etc... Then you could find peo…
That's because within the first couple years they figured out that over 90% of their users were primarily using it to connect with people they already knew. (And these were the folks who were both early adopters and college students.)
Also, if you design a social network around meeting new people then that network will cap out relatively quickly and die due to 'triadic implosion'. This is where person A is friends with person B and C. Once person B meets person C, the open triad becomes a closed triad. I forget the exact percent, but once the closed triads are more than a certain percentage the entire social network dies. However, networks that are designed to connect you with your existing friends don't run into this problem.
Also, designing the social network around your existing friends is more conducive to generating lots of new content cheaply and often automatically by using exterior behavioral residue, which is essentially what this new update is all about. Originally Facebook was designed around the existing social science combined with Zuckerberg's intuition, though at this point Facebook is mostly designed around its own proprietary social science that has been created for internal use. In the short run they are maxing out their stickiness before the IPO, though in the long run it wouldn't surprise me if they ultimately undermine their original appeal by straying too far from the basics.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I often receive friend requests from people who I have recently met through work, going out, friends of friends, etc. It seems like it would be a good way for these people who know a little bit about me to quickly learn a little more about me.
Agree and I probably wasn't clear in my original post. This does seem like a neatish feature, but (at least) some of the comments seem to make it sound like it's going to totally revive Facebook, which I can't see. Any new feature has to be a good thing though, I didn't express that clearly (at all?) in my original comment.
Though I disagree that any new feature is a good thing :P
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#94I can't help but think of bitrot. You spend an afternoon "scrapbooking" in real life, and you get something that your grand-grandsons might, one day, inherit and read in awe. You spend an afternoon scrapbooking on FB, and in ten years FB goes bust or whatever (Geocities, anyone?), and you've got nothing. I guess the real test will be my wife -- she loves scrapbooking. (this, and the first time I went through the pres…
For example, a while back they managed to lose parts of my profile (something to do with "pages" I think), and I used to be part of a group for my year at high school which, as far as I can tell, has silently vanished.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. And I wish there was a way to capture everything in my life in this Timeline-like fashion, without any extra effort from me. The one condition I have, though, is that I don't share it with anyone except someone I explicitly want to share it with. With everything being absolutely private and in my control to carry with me, by default, it would be killer. But this could well be opposite to Facebook's own direction…
You will not be disappointed then by what we are cooking up.
I can see how the practice started; help spread the word. It just doesn't inspire confidence in me for a site where I'm going to end up posting all sorts of details of my life...
Still, I'll be interested to check it out myself once I can.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook used to be more of a social network for finding people you don't know, and now it's a social network for the people you know. I really miss searching through profiles. I made a lot of friends randomly that way at my school. I'd click on a band name, a movie, a person or anything, find all the people that liked that band, find out a person was really awesome, hang out with them, etc... Then you could find peo…
"Facebook used to be more of a social network for finding people you don't know, and now it's a social network for the people you know." That's because within the first couple years they figured out that over 90% of their users were primarily using it to connect with people they already knew. (And these were the folks who were both early adopters and college students.) Also, if you design a social network around meet…
I'm pretty sure you're misinterpreting a research paper that I'm familiar with. A common measure of network structure is the clustering coefficient, which is the ratio of triads to all possible triads. In real networks, the average clustering coefficient is generally orders of magnitude less than 1%.
Besides, the network is continually growing, and people generally continually meet new people. It's highly unlikely that the FB network is going to stagnate because "everyone already knows each other". At least not for another decade...
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#98Disgusting. Who would put their life story on Facebook? A crippled kind of human. Life is not pictures and facts, and this product pretends it is.
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#99I'm amazed I'm the only one it seems that things this is pretty lame and not going to be that popular. People _already know_ your life story, that's usually why their your (at least close) friends. Do you really want to see your workmates "life story"? For those that think this is genuinely going to be a good and popular thing, could you explain why? You probably all know much better than me, so I am interested to he…
I think this is more geared towards the narcissist in all of us. You read your own timeline, not your workmates'.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Facebook used to be more of a social network for finding people you don't know, and now it's a social network for the people you know." That's because within the first couple years they figured out that over 90% of their users were primarily using it to connect with people they already knew. (And these were the folks who were both early adopters and college students.) Also, if you design a social network around meet…
> but once the closed triads are more than a certain percentage the entire social network dies I'm pretty sure you're misinterpreting a research paper that I'm familiar with. A common measure of network structure is the clustering coefficient, which is the ratio of triads to all possible triads. In real networks, the average clustering coefficient is generally orders of magnitude less than 1%. Besides, the network is…
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1150402.1150412&coll=&...
Unfortunately I no longer have a copy of it on my computer to check. This was my understanding though from the last time I looked at it:
http://alexkrupp.typepad.com/sensemaking/2007/05/triadic_imp...