If we install binaries, how can we be sure that any messaging app has no backdoors?
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Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
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Re: Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
#102If we install binaries, how can we be sure that any messaging app has no backdoors?
You can install the Telegram FOSS client, at least in an Android cellphone.
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#103If we install binaries, how can we be sure that any messaging app has no backdoors?
Also, why put a backdoor in the client if the server sees pretty much every message in plaintext?
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#104It's hilarious to watch Americans get triggered at Telegram's success. I'll grab my popcorn.
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#105This article is good. Telegram is really weird and sketchy; the rants Durov posts on his channel against WhatsApp usually make no sense; and their claims of security are dubious. And TON was a disaster. On the other hand. If I did any social organizing today, I would definitely use Telegram. Signal is fine , but nobody is using it and the UX is just worse. I don't trust Facebook to randomly not shut everything down b…
Telegram is ridiculously smooth, runs on everything, doesn’t treat any platform as an afterthought (despite having the electron thing, Signal is still very mobile oriented), and isn’t Facebook. It’s about as good as you’re going to get without making big sacrifices somewhere.
Telegram is the only platform that "works" on Jolla. WA/Signal are both proprietary and will not work outside the Google-Apple "pleb sandbox".
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it’s ridiculously well made. I’m not disputing that. The protocol is weird but they built a great app on top of that. They just cannot be sustainable long term. There is literally no restriction size-wise on data you can save on their servers. For free. And they have basically no income. They have some new ad program with basically no tracking (which is good for users, sure, but nobody will pay that much for th…
protocol is weird You’re repeating weird , but working with both bot api and tg api weekly or so (tg api through a wrapper, but I’ve read about lower level calls and used these in gramjs) I can’t see what do you mean by that.
Meaning MTProto. Not the bot API.
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#108People are consistently surprised that Telegram is not encrypted by default in any setting. You have to create a device-to-device-specific encrypted chat with your counter-party. It's not a reasonable security model, vastly outclassed by (the still quite flawed) Signal. Ultimately, we need encrypted-by-default messaging based on public/private key pairs (obscured from the uninterested user, of course).
Not end-to-end encrypted, but it is encrypted.
Re: Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
#109People are consistently surprised that Telegram is not encrypted by default in any setting. You have to create a device-to-device-specific encrypted chat with your counter-party. It's not a reasonable security model, vastly outclassed by (the still quite flawed) Signal. Ultimately, we need encrypted-by-default messaging based on public/private key pairs (obscured from the uninterested user, of course).
Both Threema and Signal are the way to go with chat apps, the only advantage Telegram offers are vast groups for specific purposes. Here in Berlin, I'm getting cheap produce through telegram, get alerted to public transport controls (I do have a ticket, but sometimes friends do not), and sell/buy stuff I don't need.
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#110If we install binaries, how can we be sure that any messaging app has no backdoors?
Their build are reproducible .
https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds