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It is even more suspicious why ID.me would even be thought of when login.gov exists. Let us also find out why a non governmental entity is handling security screenings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Secure
>Let us also find out why a non governmental entity is handling * Ex-gov here. It is baked into gov thinking that the most desirable solution to difficult problems is to give it to the commercial sector. To a degree, it recognizes that a core responsibility of US gov is to support US commerce. One may argue how that philosophy encourages certain forms of corruption (swinging door, price abominations etc) but it's an…
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This is a really good point - if the tax code were a few dozen pages for the common case instead of a few hundred , then you might not even need tax-prep software in the first place. "The best program is the one that doesn't exist", to quote a popular refrain. Ongoing software projects require periodic refactoring to reduce complexity and increase comprehension - why would the law be any different?
> if the tax code were a few dozen pages for the common case instead of a few hundred Isn't this the fantasy of clean sheet software? 'We'll get rid of all this cruft and make it clean and simple.' But it turns out that the cruft is needed to deal with reality, which is messy rather than the abstract clean-room requirements of our imaginations. I can't see how the tax code can be short, having to deal with such a wid…
The fantasy is that the software can be made completely clean and simple because there are no edge cases. The reality is that it can be made less terrible by reworking complex parts of the design that were slowly hacked into place over time, and by eliminating technical debt. The fact that the ideal is unobtainable is irrelevant to the fact that there are still concrete, worthwhile, and necessary improvements to be made.
If your perspective on taxes were applied to software engineering, then most large projects would have collapsed by now.
> I can't see how the tax code can be short, having to deal with such a wide range of situations.
Not "short", but short-er than the 74,000 pages that it currently is. And, it's already dealing with a wide range of situations by simply compressing the feature-space down a lot, so one way of making it simpler is to compress it down even more. For instance, you could eliminate a bunch of individual rules that reduce effective taxes for low-income earners, and then just reduce the tax rate at that bracket.
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#163But it's somehow racist to show ID to vote.
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#164Interesting news. But I see a lot of negative comments regarding the biometrics. Here's my two cents. I'm the founder of a biometric users identity check solution, called Typing AI Biometrics ( https://typing.ai ). We identify users by the way they type. Typing biometrics can be used as a two factor (2FA) or multi factor (MFA) authentication method. Instead of combining the usual username + password with an OTP code…
So then, I need to type the same password the same way every time? If I set up an account while I'm still waking up, and then try to use it after lunch and coffee, wouldn't I get locked out due to inputting faster than expected? Or what if I'm on the phone with someone, and trying to type with one hand? That would probably lock me out, right?
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Of course a tax code is complicated. It touches pretty everything with respect to income and expenditures, with numerous special cases. The truth is, that most people only deal with the same two forms, a 1040 and a W2. Like anything complex, only a very small portion is actually utilized by any particular individual. Glossing over this, and instead trumpeting some canard like number of pages, or number or words, is s…
Of course there are "special cases" - that should be obvious. However, it's very much not obvious that there are 74,000 pages worth of special cases , which is the actual argument that I'm making that you conveniently ignored. It's pretty clear that the extreme case of tailoring the tax code to the individual results in a hundred thousand clauses of the tax code, which is infeasible, and so there's necessarily the lo…
Do I care about the ins and outs of alimony and child support? Nope! I am not divorced.
Do I care about the ins and outs of how to deprecate the cost of my car as a business expense? Nope! I’m not self-employed.
How about foreign investment income? Nope!
How about income from farms? Oil wells on government land? Military income while serving overseas? Nope! Nope! Nope!
Do I care about the Earned Income Tax Credit? Yup! Do I understand it? Nope! Has the IRS sent me a letter after I filed saying that I qualified for the EIC, and they amended my 1040 to claim it? Yup!
The point is, if the special cases aren’t applicable, it’s the same as if they don’t exist.
Why do you care about inapplicable parts of the tax code?
Let’s be honest here. Most people have a W2, and that’s pretty much it. If they have a mortgage, their lender has already submitted a 1090 on their behalf. That’s it. You spend your day literally just copying numbers from forms and then subtracting. There’s no point to a person doing this.
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Lol. Its always the Republicans. If it was priority for the Dems, they'd have done it. They have gotten through several other things the Republicans opposed. Anyhow, the better alternative is to return to lower the rates and remove deductions (aside from the standard deduction). Even simpler yet would be to go to a flat tax with an extremely high standard deduction (e.g. ~$50k with ~10% after that). I can't think of…
> Even simpler yet would be to go to a flat tax with an extremely high standard deduction (e.g. ~$50k with ~10% after that). That's not a flat tax. That is a progressive tax with two brackets. Once you have accepted that progressive taxes are acceptable, it is hard to see why two brackets is better than three, or 4, or even dozens. One might argue that two brackets is simpler than say 10 brackets, but that is a very…
First, I don't think anyone should pay taxes on their labor. And just because my labor makes more shouldn't mean I pay a higher percentage; so, no, I don't agree with the concept of progressive taxation on labor. Regardless, that's what we have.
Anyway, 10% after $50,000 is dead simple. e.g. make $120,000 as a family, take away $100,000, left with $20,000, I pay $2,000. Real tax rate is only 1.6%, so maybe that's too nice for the American family? You can change it to 15% after $25,000 and it's still simpler. $120k-$50k=$70k x .15=$10.5k or 8.75% real tax rate, all without worrying about IRAs, 401ks, HSAs, etc.
With a 6-12 tax brackets with crazy amount of deductions, I need to:
1) calculate taxable income. This is some func of deductions. i.e. standard deduction ($25k) + max 401k ($20k) brings taxable income to $75,000. There's other deductions such as IRAs, HSAs, 529, etc; all with their own maxes based on various criterias and income, which has it's own list of gotchas that screw over people. Hopefully you didn't forget a deduction on top of all that.
2) Now determine tax rate. 22%. Feels bad, but whatever -nearly a quarter of your income (nominally, at least) to finance the debt to keep inflation going. The graph says ~$4,800+22% of anything over ~$42,000. Alright. So $4,800+(22% x $33,000)=$12,060 are taxes owed.
3) Now determine your credits, if any. Such as a child credit. I hope you know your credits, because you might've forgot about a tax credit for something you bought. Let's assume you know you get $3600 for a toddler, and put that in. Now your $12,000 is $8,400.
4) Ensure your paid taxes is correct. You paid throughout the year, adds up to ~$8000. So taxes due are now $400.
5) Now you go to pay $400. Welp. Now you need to pay $50 because you decided you wanted to buy a stock that gave you $10 in dividends in a brokerage account, and now you can no longer free file. But you don't want to be audited, so you report the $10 and pay the $50.
Yeah, that's very simple and straight forward. But good news is the actual tax rate is actually only 7%, even though you felt like you just paid nearly 22%, wasted hours of your life, and were insulted with an additional fee just to pay your taxes.
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if the tax code were a few dozen pages for the common case instead of a few hundred Isn't this the fantasy of clean sheet software? 'We'll get rid of all this cruft and make it clean and simple.' But it turns out that the cruft is needed to deal with reality, which is messy rather than the abstract clean-room requirements of our imaginations. I can't see how the tax code can be short, having to deal with such a wid…
> Isn't this the fantasy of clean sheet software? 'We'll get rid of all this cruft and make it clean and simple.' But it turns out that the cruft is needed to deal with reality, which is messy rather than the abstract clean-room requirements of our imaginations. The fantasy is that the software can be made completely clean and simple because there are no edge cases. The reality is that it can be made less terrible by…
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The GOP opposes it; they are the obstacle. I think such actions by the GOP has become normalized for people, and so they overlook it. I don't see how you can blame the Democrats, who are voting for it. > If it was priority for the Dems, they'd have done it. Easily said, but as we know, not easily done.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs... https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs... Seems like the donations are pretty evenly split for the companies that would be the largest lobbies over the past several years. This seems like the case of the uniparty being apparent, where there's no real drive to simplify the tax code because it's something both can blame each other on…
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Please evaluate your filters. If you believe this you are in a bubble. It’s the economic and historical equivalent of belief in a flat earth. The “New Deal” saved the middle class. A “green” new deal could do it again. We have an incredible need and opportunity to (re)build infrastructure in this country. That’s where the middle class can thrive. The green new deal was an olive branch as much as anything. An opportun…
You really did a good job at convincing me. - assume my "filters" are wrong. A difference of opinions doesn't mean my filters are wrong. It simply means I made different conclusions. If you want to support AOC and her policies, go for it. I won't partake. - believe I'm in a bubble. Right. That's why I'm on HN; because I'm in a bubble and you think exactly as I do? - Now I believe in a flat earth. That's just a wasted…