Live data from Hacker News

The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

economist.com

191–192 of 192 posts

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#191
post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I strongly suspect poor folks and especially middle class folks, have far more debt as a percentage of net worth than rich folks do and so spend more time at the spigot so to speak - relatively, not in absolute terms. It reads as if you put some kind of blame on those poorer people who borrow money .. or do I get this wrong? You do realize that taking on debt doesn't make these poorer people the ones who c…

Not trying to blame anyone for anything here! My point was that in isolation, if wages keep pace with inflation, inflation benefits debtors (especially long term structured debt like mortgages) because you take out the debt in today dollars and can repay them with future dollars worth less. For instance I have a 2.75-ish% APR 30 year fixed rate mortgage but inflation was 7%, so I made a ton of money by having that de…

> I’m suggesting that lower and middle class folks have far more debt as a percentage of net worth and therefore benefit more as a percentage of net worth than wealthy folks from inflation (“being at the spigot”).

Agree. This is one effect of inflation that's beneficial for debtors.

There's another effect that lets especially lower wealth/income groups look not so good: the structure of net worth. Wealthy and high income group people typically have assets that will be more or less inflation neutral. I don't need to make a list: real estate, stocks, ... the big fortunes consisting of these won't care one bit about inflation. Low income people mostly don't have these. If they own anything at all, it's mostyl cash, so hit 100 % by inflation.

> But this is all conditional on wages keeping pace.

Here's the catch ... according to [1]:

> Research by the McKinsey Global Institute found that between 65% and 70% of people in 25 advanced countries saw no increase in their earnings between 2005 and 2014.

You might say, hey, we didn't have much inflation according to CPI from 2005 to 2014. Well, then just take housing prices, which make up a big chunk of most peoples' expenses and have increased significantly over this period according to OECD data [2].

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/14/up-to-70-pe... [2] https://data.oecd.org/chart/6yZt

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About 20 states have their minimum wage at the federal minimum wage. So the federal minimum does have a major impact on the actual minimum. I agree about the other part though.

As another commenter pointed out, minimum wage affects less than 1% of the population. It's a bit bizarre to focus in on such a long tail. More importantly, Big Mac Index is based on the average US price. But Big Macs in, say, Arkansas can be almost 40% cheaper than one from California. So it's really not fair to compare the federal minimum wage to the national price.

>minimum wage affects less than 1% of the population.

It does now. If it were raised to 15-20 an hour how many would it effect? If there was zero effect then it would have already passed because it would have been easy points for a congressmen to say "Look what I did for the poor and hopeless I care".

Post reply on HN