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Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

tekknik wrote: post #45
nfriedly wrote: post #21

When I was a kid, I had a joint bank account with one of my parents. When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account, but it looked like a Visa card to anyone who was processing it. I recall being pleasantly surprised when I learned that I could use that card to "prove" I was over 18.

> When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account Not relevant to the conversation at hand, and perhaps this is US only, but using a debit card you can absolutely spend more than you have. Sometimes banks won’t remove the funds until the actual transaction posts. Most shops won’t post the transactions until evening. S…

Are you sure that's fraud? When I accidentally spent more than I had, the bank never cancelled my account / told me I'd committed fraud / sicced the cops on me.

My balance went negative, and I was charged an overdraft fee. Reading the fine print on my account, it said that charges would go through on an overdrawn account until a certain dollar amount, at which point the debit card transactions would fail.

Now reading what I just wrote... It does seem like it would be very much specific to each bank.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by jseliger »

onion2k wrote: post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

Soon, we'll see "Studies show that the legal requirement to verify users has led teens to master using VPNs."

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by LatteLazy »

tekknik wrote: post #47
LatteLazy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Today a 13 y/o boy can see more types of fruit in a supermarket in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined. Its an absolute stimulus overload. When will we bad fruit? Or maybe things changing isn't necessarily a catastrophe 100% of the time?

Fruit and nudity are not the same. Fruit doesn’t trigger hormonal responses, nudity does.

Actually they do. Specifically insulin but others too.

Eating too much fruit actually could turn you blind...

And there are a whole bunch of foods that affect your sexual hormone levels too.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by ilaksh »

ralfd wrote: post #13
onion2k wrote: post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

Side note: Recently a teacher posted a thread on Reddit, that while discussing social media he mentioned Reddit and his class snickered. They teased him „Mr teacher are you a Reddit user?“ which he confusingly acknowledged to more snickering. He finally found out that teenagers regarded Reddit as a porn site like pornhub! Interesting perspective and maybe generational divide: if you are not a geek with special intere…

Personally I think those are just ignorant teenagers.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by lariati »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #8
IIAOPSW wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.

This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…

Exactly. We have no idea what this is doing to people.

There is a shocking drop in the testosterone levels of young men from 1999 to 2016 per studies if you google it. 20-30% drop.

The correlation in data would obviously be there but who knows about causation.

I am 50 and didn't see hardcore porn until I was almost 18. Some kid got into his fathers porn collection and was playing it at a party. I still remember it was the most horny I had ever been at that point in my life. It is illogical to believe that level of stimulation from the onset of puberty has no effect on development.

I don't see what the solution to this is though. It is a really tough subject to study on any real level.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by lariati »

LatteLazy wrote: post #43
MathCodeLove wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…

Today a 13 y/o boy can see more types of fruit in a supermarket in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined. Its an absolute stimulus overload. When will we bad fruit? Or maybe things changing isn't necessarily a catastrophe 100% of the time?

Completely moronic take on this.

We have no idea what this level of stimulation is doing to boys at development.

I think you are confusing the moral aspects with the unknowns here.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by MisterTea »

onion2k wrote: post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

Before the internet you had a janky friend who was able to raid their parents porn stash or older brother/cousin who could get it. Porn magazines were prominently displayed along other magazines in news stands and candy stores. The usual approach was a really janky friend would casually enter, grab one and run out. There was always porn kicking around for kids to find/steal.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by tanseydavid »

LatteLazy wrote: post #53
tekknik wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fruit and nudity are not the same. Fruit doesn’t trigger hormonal responses, nudity does.

Actually they do. Specifically insulin but others too. Eating too much fruit actually could turn you blind... And there are a whole bunch of foods that affect your sexual hormone levels too.

Would you still exert this much effort to minimize or trivialize if we were talking about 10 year old children instead of 13 year old children?

What if it was 8 year old children? Would you feel differently then?

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