When I was a kid, I had a joint bank account with one of my parents. When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account, but it looked like a Visa card to anyone who was processing it. I recall being pleasantly surprised when I learned that I could use that card to "prove" I was over 18.
Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.
This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…
> Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined.
May be true on average, but there are not-so-exceptional exceptions to this. For example areas where topless sunbathing is common and cultures where breasts aren't hidden because of puritan ideas. (Also maybe Nordic countries? Not sure how old teens are before mixed naked saunas are a normal thing) If that was a significant problem you'd think we'd see some extreme behaviours there.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…
> Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts Poor little guy! Certainly can’t let young kids see breasts lest they become raging maniacs. Societal mental health, brought to you by bottled milk.
Glad you took that example and interpreted it in bad faith.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.
Usually when politicians ressurect "think of the children" initiatives they want to distract attention from something. What's the current UK scandal, besides the obvious ongoing BRExit consequences?
Tldr news UK is pretty good at matter-of-fact summaries of those: https://youtube.com/c/TLDRNews
Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…
> Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined. May be true on average, but there are not-so-exceptional exceptions to this. For example areas where topless sunbathing is common and cultures where breasts aren't hidden because of puritan ideas. (Also maybe Nordic countries? Not sure how old teens are before mixed naked saunas are a normal…
True but I would wager that it certainly wasn't in the same context as often found online. That aside I could (and should) have just used "intercourse" as an alternative example to convey the same point.
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#26Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.
This is true. India has blocked a lot of major porn sites. This has however led to creation of porn sharing whatsapp/telegram groups since one person downloads the porn via VPN and then shares it to all. This inturn has led to sharing of even more shadier porn and hasn't prevented teens from accessing porn. Sadly this has lead to a couple of horrific cases of minors raping minors:
https://timesofindia.com/city/raipur/chhattisgarh-8-year-old...
I guess sex education and teaching about consent at an early age is the only thing that can be done.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…
> Porn addiction is a very real issue It's literally highly contested if it even exists. The evidence base is extremely poor.
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Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card
#28Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.
This is true. India has blocked a lot of major porn sites. This has however led to creation of porn sharing whatsapp/telegram groups since one person downloads the porn via VPN and then shares it to all. This inturn has led to sharing of even more shadier porn and hasn't prevented teens from accessing porn. Sadly this has lead to a couple of horrific cases of minors raping minors: https://timesofindia.com/city/raipur…
I guess sex education and teaching about consent at an early age is the only thing that can be done.
If there has been adequate adult supervision, the eight year old girl would not have been repeatedly raped for two months.
Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…
> Porn addiction is a very real issue It's literally highly contested if it even exists. The evidence base is extremely poor.
What's contested is if its the porn itself that causes the addiction or the feedback loop and easy access is what leads to compulsive consumption. No mainstream psychological organization is saying that there are no addictive or compulsive behaviors associated with excess porn consuption, just that it doesnt meet the critia as a medically diagnosed addiction and is closer to a compulsion.
For laymen however, referring to it as an addiction is what most accurately encompasses its impact on those who become compulsive consumers of it.
Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card
#30Let's assume porn websites implement this as required (fat chance). You'd be daft to enter your CC that associates you by name, home address, phone number and purchases to the porn videos that you'd look at. Who comes up with this stuff? Zeroknowledge proof based age verification service when?
I don’t know the shady data economy at all, but are there datasets out there which let you de-anonymize just via residential/mobile IP address or hostname? I just assumed there were, available to any very motivated party. And how effective and wide spread is browser fingerprinting to de-anon someone?
Consumer451 seems to be insuating that age verification by CC for porn might be okay? Since your privacy online is lost anyhow? While stating "he doesn't know ... at all".