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Peter Thiel to step down from Meta’s board

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>He has also been seen as the contrarian who has Mr. Zuckerberg’s ear, championing unfettered speech across digital platforms. His conservative views also gave Facebook’s board ideological diversity. What a fawning, iconoclastic corruption of "diversity." The New York Times is blatantly courting Thiel's fascist endeavor. This journalistic abortion glosses over exactly what kind of speech Thiel's cohort seeks not just…

nytimes staying on brand, courting lil' wannabe fascists

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I don't think it's okay to call another human a rat. It's pure hate without reason.

I spent some time at university doing psychological research on rats. In my experience they’re the sweetest things and actually quite affectionate, as long as they’re given somewhere safe to live, aren’t too hungry, and you handle them with kindness and care.

(they have quite sharp claws which can accidentally pierce your skin if they’re startled or scared of you. Also, their vision isn’t great; you can wind up getting bit if they mistake your finger for a piece of food being offered to them, so you do need to keep your fingers together whenever you present your hand to them. But other than those? Absolute sweeties.)

I guess I just mean to say that I think I might agree with you.

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Is being the 50th best basketball player on the planet good enough? Why do athletes continue to dedicate their lives in the hopes of being #1? Once your basic needs are met and you have a comfortable standard of living, everything else is a game, and people like to win. Why does anyone need a fancy car? Why does anyone need to compete with their neighbors and coworkers? Why does a billionaire need a superyacht when a…

It is game with millions of human lives being destroyed as a consequence at times.

If you don't like the game, you should probably vote for politicians that change the rules. There isn't a real bound on wealth within the system we're in, until that changes this is reality and expecting people who play it to be inherently moral is naive.

Note that Im not stating a judgement either way, just pointing out how the system currently works.

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This podcast "The Peter Thiel Paradox" [1] explained a lot about the mystery of Peter Thiel to me. Turns out that there is less than meets the eye but he does have a specific talent for manipulating the political systems and government coffers to enrich himself, much like Richard Branson, or so the British podcast claims. [1] https://www.lrb.co.uk/podcasts-and-videos/podcasts/the-lrb-p... One nitpick; Theil said "We…

There was a comment in a thread on HN a while ago by someone that interviewed with Thiel's hedge fund. Apparently the fund lost a lot of money and Thiel was directing the trading decisions. Other investors pulled their money and it was mostly Thiel's money in the fund going forward.

Wasn't Eric Weinstein also involved with that hedge fund? Or am I mixing things up?

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Whatever happened to facebook in the span of 1 month that is so different than what was happening the past ~10 years? devaluation in multiple dimensions

Facebook's earlier valuation was reasonable only with an assumption that it will reasonably rapidly grow much, much larger than it is now. The market now started to believe that its long-term growth is going to be slower and more limited (i.e. disbelieving the Meta assertion that they're going to unlock humongous growth through metaverse), so that brings a huge adjustment down, closer to numbers justified by their current revenue.

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This podcast "The Peter Thiel Paradox" [1] explained a lot about the mystery of Peter Thiel to me. Turns out that there is less than meets the eye but he does have a specific talent for manipulating the political systems and government coffers to enrich himself, much like Richard Branson, or so the British podcast claims. [1] https://www.lrb.co.uk/podcasts-and-videos/podcasts/the-lrb-p... One nitpick; Theil said "We…

Why do people with this much wealth want even more wealth for themselves? I've never understood this.

Ok well I'm not there really so I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'm guessing, probably by the time you get "this much wealth", this is the only game you can play, and it's fun, so you continue playing.

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Like Elon Musk, he wasn't born in the US and is therefore ineligible. (edit: "natural-born citizen" is not as well-defined as I thought, and Ted Cruz qualifies on account of having a US citizen parent at the time of his birth. But it's clear that Thiel doesn't.)

That requirement seems pretty bizarre to myself as a non-US person. Haven't heard of being natural born as a requirement for president before, but seems like another aspect that the US shares with a small list of other countries. It seems pretty on-brand to be honest though, I wonder why that rule exists and what benefit it provides. The first couple presidents couldn't have met it, so I wonder when it was introduced…

This rule was enacted to prevent Alexander Hamilton from becoming president. He also wasn't born in the US. The term "naturalized" wasn't yet well defined.

The first American born president (born after the revolution) was Van Buren, the first 7 were born British citizens!

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Why do people with this much wealth want even more wealth for themselves? I've never understood this.

Is being the 50th best basketball player on the planet good enough? Why do athletes continue to dedicate their lives in the hopes of being #1? Once your basic needs are met and you have a comfortable standard of living, everything else is a game, and people like to win. Why does anyone need a fancy car? Why does anyone need to compete with their neighbors and coworkers? Why does a billionaire need a superyacht when a…

> people like to win

True, but there are a host of other things that people like. The idea that "winning" is the ultimate goal in life is more socially induced than immanent.

If as a society we decide to foster different attitudes and goals we will obtain different outcomes and different kinds of people (to a certain extent, of course).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like Elon Musk, he wasn't born in the US and is therefore ineligible. (edit: "natural-born citizen" is not as well-defined as I thought, and Ted Cruz qualifies on account of having a US citizen parent at the time of his birth. But it's clear that Thiel doesn't.)

That requirement seems pretty bizarre to myself as a non-US person. Haven't heard of being natural born as a requirement for president before, but seems like another aspect that the US shares with a small list of other countries. It seems pretty on-brand to be honest though, I wonder why that rule exists and what benefit it provides. The first couple presidents couldn't have met it, so I wonder when it was introduced…

> I wonder why that rule exists and what benefit it provides. The first couple presidents couldn't have met it, so I wonder when it was introduced.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President" from section 1, Article 2 of the US Constitution (adopted 1789).

There is some legal debate about what "natural born Citizen" means now, but that has not fully been testing in court IIUC.

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