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Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by fabian_shipamax »

AdhesiveWombat wrote: post #28
fergonco wrote: post #24

If you are willing to work remotely you can do, at least, twice as that. German market pays best in Europe but you need to speak the language. The culture is also very specific. If you don't have family and don't mind working in other timezones, then US will have the best offer for you. My algorithm: do many applications. Aim high, low and in between. Ask for a high salary and lower little by little.

> German market pays best in Europe but you need to speak the language. The culture is also very specific. Genuine question: do you mean to say the culture is very specific or just not American? I'm curious to know if it is more specific than, let's say, French or Spanish.

Not sure about that. UK/London companies can pay big bucks if they want you.

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by PaywallBuster »

you're probably in France?

32k can be competitive with the average local company?

But if you compare with top of the range salaries at the biggest tech centers in Europe is quite low

or with remote jobs which could pay top of the range as long as you're situated in Europe

Please see https://techpays.eu/ if you're specifically looking for the companies paying the most

If you want to get competitive salary you need to move, biggest cities/tech centers in Europe.

Ireland, UK (still?), Germany, Netherlands all have big markets with top of the range salaries

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by c16 »

I found Hired has a salary page[1] (likely SO have one too? Edit: they do [2]) the other day while a friend suggested I use them for my "window shopping". It's more US/UK based, and the few roles I've looked up in France (you mentioned europe) didn't turn up a whole lot/if anything at all.

I'd wager you could maybe do a GBP->EUR conversion for a _rough_ idea, but then again, local markets and education requirements may dictate your salary. My impression of the French market is that education is still incredibly important, where as in the UK it is not so important for these roles.

A loose north star, if you will.

[1] https://hired.com/salaries

[2] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#salary-comp-t...

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by mcv »

PaywallBuster wrote: post #32

you're probably in France? 32k can be competitive with the average local company? But if you compare with top of the range salaries at the biggest tech centers in Europe is quite low or with remote jobs which could pay top of the range as long as you're situated in Europe Please see https://techpays.eu/ if you're specifically looking for the companies paying the most If you want to get competitive salary you need to…

> you're probably in France?

Probably not:

>> I live in central Europe

Could be Germany, could be Hungary.

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by rozenmd »

Jacqued wrote: post #11

I think in Europe there's a bunch of local markets with a lot of companies that do not want to compete for developers, not within the EU and definitely not with the US. They'd rather push talented developers to leave than raise wages (and maybe it makes sense in their business). You need to find the pockets in the market which do compete for talent on an international (at least EU-wide) level. That may be foreign tec…

Don't you then lose social security, benefits, ability to rent/get a mortgage by not being full time/CDI?

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by TuringNYC »

Too many of the answers here are theoretical. I'd like to propose a "Mark-to-Market" approach.

1. Apply/Interview and get a formal job offer on paper. If you cant get a job, your market value is a lot lower than you think.

A. Apply only to jobs where you would work, not some wretched job you wouldn't take, that isn't a real market rate FOR YOU.

B. Apply only to cities where you would live, not some theoretical "SF/SV" salary if you aren't willing to move/live there.

Ideally get three offers and average them. Your market rate baseline is that. Negotiation will get more.

2. Hopefully the above exercise finds you a job you WANT, not just a "Mark-to-Market" exercise. Take the job, be happy and go somewhere where you are paid well for good work.

Re: Ask HN: How can I calculate my market value?

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Post by d82nsjk9 »

rozenmd wrote: post #36
Jacqued wrote: post #11

I think in Europe there's a bunch of local markets with a lot of companies that do not want to compete for developers, not within the EU and definitely not with the US. They'd rather push talented developers to leave than raise wages (and maybe it makes sense in their business). You need to find the pockets in the market which do compete for talent on an international (at least EU-wide) level. That may be foreign tec…

Don't you then lose social security, benefits, ability to rent/get a mortgage by not being full time/CDI?

> ability to rent/get a mortgage by not being full time/CDI

You can plan ahead and take a FTE position when you need to rent/loan for real estate. If you do a lot of these investments then I agree it is a disadvantage, but for most people that's easy to sort out.

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